Ah the irony of it
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Cutting all government programs relating to welfare
In other words - benefits to people they think are undeserving.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
unessential regulatory beurocracies and general waste and corruptio
Meaningless buzz words.
Majerus wrote:
In other words - benefits to people they think are undeserving.
Cutting all benefits in a responsible manner. Oh and by the way, not everybody gets benefits you know. They think those people are undeserving of them so they don't get any.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Cutting all government programs relating to welfare and unessential regulatory beurocracies and general waste and corruption is the core of the Tea Party.
So who will decide which regulation is unessential? and what waste is general? What wil happen if people within this tiny govermment disagree about these?
Josh Gray wrote:
So who will decide which regulation is unessential? and what waste is general? What wil happen if people within this tiny govermment disagree about these?
The Constitution is the framework of the government. If they are not enumerated a certain power under the Constitution then they cannot do it. Disagreements with the constitution are irrelevant.
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Josh Gray wrote:
So who will decide which regulation is unessential? and what waste is general? What wil happen if people within this tiny govermment disagree about these?
The Constitution is the framework of the government. If they are not enumerated a certain power under the Constitution then they cannot do it. Disagreements with the constitution are irrelevant.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Disagreements with the constitution are irrelevant.
What about disagreements reagarding the interpretation of the constitution?
There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
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There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
But there will be disagreements, under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Disagreements with the constitution are irrelevant.
What about disagreements reagarding the interpretation of the constitution?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
But there will be disagreements, under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
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http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=529AD458-F859-AAB8-4D74EDC0FFA2DD0D[^] A tea party candidate who ran on repeal of Obama Care because it's a government take over of health care wants to know why he has to wait a month for his. He goes on to say how he's never worked for any employer who doesn't cover you on day one. That's funny I've never worked for anyone who did. Nice, what a tosser.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
But there will be disagreements, under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
Josh Gray wrote:
under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
The law.
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*Snigger*
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
Trollslayer wrote:
*Snigger*
Racist.
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Josh Gray wrote:
under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
The law.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Josh Gray wrote: under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'? The law.
So who will define that law and under what power?
Josh Gray wrote:
So who will define that law and under what power?
The Constitution is the law, and under the powers enumerated by the Constitution do they enforce the law.
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Josh Gray wrote:
So who will define that law and under what power?
The Constitution is the law, and under the powers enumerated by the Constitution do they enforce the law.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The Constitution is the law, and under the powers enumerated by the Constitution do they enforce the law.
And the circle of reasoning is complete!
The Constitution is like the steel and concrete foundation of the entire country. It is the kernel, the lowest level of it. If it becomes corrupted by a rootkit or a virus (ie: liberal) things fall apart.
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The Constitution is like the steel and concrete foundation of the entire country. It is the kernel, the lowest level of it. If it becomes corrupted by a rootkit or a virus (ie: liberal) things fall apart.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The Constitution is like the steel and concrete foundation of the entire country.
Exactly, you can't live in a foundation. What I'm asking you is who decides what is built on top of that foundation? You need builders, contracors, someone to paint it (or do you want wallpaper?) etc. Then you need a project manager to coordinate those people. They need rules about how they interact, who decides what material you use for the roof? What about landscaping? What about furniture? Central heating? etc etc If you want a software analogy who decides how user mode applications interact with the kernal? Who writes the memory manager?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The Constitution is like the steel and concrete foundation of the entire country.
Exactly, you can't live in a foundation. What I'm asking you is who decides what is built on top of that foundation? You need builders, contracors, someone to paint it (or do you want wallpaper?) etc. Then you need a project manager to coordinate those people. They need rules about how they interact, who decides what material you use for the roof? What about landscaping? What about furniture? Central heating? etc etc If you want a software analogy who decides how user mode applications interact with the kernal? Who writes the memory manager?
Josh Gray wrote:
What I'm asking you is who decides what is built on top of that foundation?
Congress.
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Josh Gray wrote:
What I'm asking you is who decides what is built on top of that foundation?
Congress.
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Majerus wrote:
In other words - benefits to people they think are undeserving.
Cutting all benefits in a responsible manner. Oh and by the way, not everybody gets benefits you know. They think those people are undeserving of them so they don't get any.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Isn't that what you have now?
The Constitution (the foundation) has been broken, the system has been corrupted. It needs wiped out and redone. Much like a computer that has been too badly infected to be restored properly. Or a termite infested house with a crumbling foundation, it needs to be bulldozed and rebuilt.
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