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  • G Gregory Gadow

    Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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    I'd probably start by browsing NewEgg to see what was new, and Googling hardware reviews online. Some folks swear by "Tom's Hardware". I'd talk to my friends and co-workers for suggestions. I'd probably do what you did here (although I am disappointed that no one can take the time to try to give you a serious, non-flippant answer :sigh:). Good luck.

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      1 wait 6 months until all the components are smaller, faster and more powerful. 2 GOTO 1

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      I prefer

      While (Components.SmallerIn6Months And
      Components.FasterIn6Months And
      Components.MorePowerfulIn6Months)
      Thread.Sleep(365 * 24 * 60 * 60 *1000 /2)
      End While

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Nah, a tennis court - I want SERIOUS amounts of RAM!

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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        Ah, more power than finesse. And homogenous units.

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        • C Chris Losinger

          1 wait 6 months until all the components are smaller, faster and more powerful. 2 GOTO 1

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          Gregory Gadow
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          Chris Losinger wrote:

          1 wait 6 months until all the components are smaller, faster and more powerful. 2 GOTO 1

          Heh, sounds like one of my bosses. He actually waited six years before getting a laptop, because "Why get one now when they will be smaller, faster and cheaper in three months?"

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          • G Gregory Gadow

            Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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            Single Step Debugger
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            I used to build my own computers from the dawn of the times, but eight months ago I decided to give the Alienware a try. So far one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              I used to build my own computers from the dawn of the times, but eight months ago I decided to give the Alienware a try. So far one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

              The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              Ian Shlasko
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              I went with a smaller builder... iBuyPower... Would have gone with Alienware, but they're owned by Dell now, and I won't touch Dell with a ten-foot pole... (Yes, I'm typing this on a Dell computer at work, but unfortunately that's what my company uses)

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                Ah, more power than finesse. And homogenous units.

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                OriginalGriff
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                Just because I like to conserve memory, doesn't mean the games I like to play do! I remember upgrading to 32Meg to play Doom2 - when the room was full of Baby Spider Demons 16Meg just didn't cut it... :laugh:

                Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  I'm a developer; I don't play computer games that I didn't write. And the games that I write are very simple.

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                  Gregory Gadow
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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  I'm a developer; I don't play computer games that I didn't write. And the games that I write are very simple.

                  When I can write my own clients for World of Warcraft and The Sims 3, I'll let you know ;P

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                  • G Gregory Gadow

                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    1 wait 6 months until all the components are smaller, faster and more powerful. 2 GOTO 1

                    Heh, sounds like one of my bosses. He actually waited six years before getting a laptop, because "Why get one now when they will be smaller, faster and cheaper in three months?"

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                    I stay on the cutting edge by buying cheap computers often rather than decked out computers infrequently.

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                    • G Gregory Gadow

                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      I'm a developer; I don't play computer games that I didn't write. And the games that I write are very simple.

                      When I can write my own clients for World of Warcraft and The Sims 3, I'll let you know ;P

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                      My point (and I do have one) is... real developers don't play those. System Admins, maybe, but not developers.

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                      • G Gregory Gadow

                        Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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                        here : Anandtech holiday 2010 system builders guide[^]


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                        • G Gregory Gadow

                          Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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                          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                          Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

                          Yeah, um... wait.

                          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                          2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array

                          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                          4MB memory

                          Um, yeah, you need an upgrade. :P Being a student, I tend to build an affinity for decent budget brands. Hence AMD. This is what I'd build though: CPU: AMD 1090T (Intel Core i7 980X EXTREME) RAM: 8GB DDR3 MB: Asus Crosshair IV Formula (Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9) HDD: (250GB SSD) + 2TB SATA GPU: XFX ATI 5970 (x2) OS: Windows Seven Note that the stuff in brackets is the slightly less sensible stuff :P I'd assemble it myself, btw.

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                            Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                            Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

                            Yeah, um... wait.

                            Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                            2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array

                            Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                            4MB memory

                            Um, yeah, you need an upgrade. :P Being a student, I tend to build an affinity for decent budget brands. Hence AMD. This is what I'd build though: CPU: AMD 1090T (Intel Core i7 980X EXTREME) RAM: 8GB DDR3 MB: Asus Crosshair IV Formula (Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9) HDD: (250GB SSD) + 2TB SATA GPU: XFX ATI 5970 (x2) OS: Windows Seven Note that the stuff in brackets is the slightly less sensible stuff :P I'd assemble it myself, btw.

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                            Check out DigitalStormOnline[^]. I feel they are much better than Alienware, if you are thinking about going for a pre-assembled machine. 980X might be a good investment, you are going to have all the computing power you need at least for another 3-4 years. And you can safely overlock it (if you are using liquid cooling) to 3.8-4.0 ghz. Check out ASUS Rampage III if you want to future proof your investment. SSD is a really good idea if you can afford it, or you can just wait for the prices to drop further and upgrade later. A single 5970 might do for now, since its dual-gpu, you can probably upgrade later. I personally prefer nVidia, because I use CUDA, so you could also check out 580 GTX, which is their top of the line right now. It might also be worth it to invest your money in getting faster ram rather than more ram. 8GB of ram would be only dual-channel, core i7 and asus rampage III support tri channel so you can go for something like 6gb (3x2gb) 1866 mhz ram, which will really pump up performance.

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              My point (and I do have one) is... real developers don't play those. System Admins, maybe, but not developers.

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              My point (and I do have one) is... real developers don't play those. System Admins, maybe, but not developers.

                              So you're saying I'm not a real developer? Am I a fantasy developer? Spiritual Developer? Or maybe just a crappy developer? I love games, including thoese mentioned, I just wish I had more time for them.

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                                I went with a smaller builder... iBuyPower... Would have gone with Alienware, but they're owned by Dell now, and I won't touch Dell with a ten-foot pole... (Yes, I'm typing this on a Dell computer at work, but unfortunately that's what my company uses)

                                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                I admire your ability to type with an eleven foot pole.

                                I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Very thin wire, and ferrite beads.

                                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  Very thin wire, and ferrite beads.

                                  My first job at Boeing involved setting up a flight simulator for the 747/Space Shuttle Carrier Aircraft. The state of the art computer we used? An EAI6400 with 64K of ferrite bead memory! :laugh: It was a couple years old by then but when it was purchased, it was so expensive that NASA had paid for half of it!

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    Very thin wire, and ferrite beads.

                                    My first job at Boeing involved setting up a flight simulator for the 747/Space Shuttle Carrier Aircraft. The state of the art computer we used? An EAI6400 with 64K of ferrite bead memory! :laugh: It was a couple years old by then but when it was purchased, it was so expensive that NASA had paid for half of it!

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                                    Snowman58 wrote:

                                    it was so expensive that NASA had paid for half of it

                                    I'm not surprised! If you have ever tried to make a 64 x 64 bit array, you will know that it takes for ever... A 64K array? Is there enough time to make that, before the sun goes out? :laugh:

                                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                    • G Gregory Gadow

                                      Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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                                      send me ur computer, that's my dream pc xD If one of ur video cards is damaged, check if the pci-x port of the mainboard is fine, and if u have a good bugdet, spend some in water-cooling solutions (haven't tried but I think it should be good) How many monitors do u have? I have a 22" and a 19", good for c#/any database programming... if u put 3, can be better for racing/shooting

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        My point (and I do have one) is... real developers don't play those. System Admins, maybe, but not developers.

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                                        Yeah, Real Developers don't even play games anymore, because Real Developers are too busy trying to clone mainframe and arcade games from the 1980s, like Rogue / Space War / Zork / Donkey Kong. They all eventually succumb to hyper-detailed feature creep (while major important parts go unfinished), bad/non-existent multimedia, clunky interfaces, hardware incompatibility, copyright infringement suits, and everything else that comes with not staying informed of the current state of the art in their genre of games. Some of the more ambitious Real Developers do release their projects and some of those releases are fantastic, like Dwarf Fortress and Minecraft, but those really are an exception to the rule. Those games have equal parts "Pssh, I could do that better" and "Yeah but I won't because I want a life outside of work". Anyways, I like the idea that a few hundred servers might be involved in my gaming experience!

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                                        • G Gregory Gadow

                                          Not really a programming question, so I'll ask here. Three years ago, I built a gaming computer from scratch: Intel quad core, two joined high-end nVidia graphics cards, nVidia optimized motherboard, 2 500MB SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, 4MB memory. It has served me very well, but one of the graphics cards has burned out, and I'm thinking of upgrading, maybe even rebuilding from scratch. It does have to be a Windows machine; I have stuff that doesn't work right on Apple or Linux OSes (I have tried.) Other than that, anything goes. So, how would you build your dream gaming machine?

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                                          As a dev and a gamer (yes you can be both) Here is my suggestion. i7 980X or if you don't want hex core, the i7 quads will suite you just fine, the triple channel ones are better than the dual channel ones obviously (intel retook the cpu crown with the i series cores, if you went with intel during the 90's through to the mid 2k's you were limiting yourself severely as the athlon and everything AMD offered prior to the phenom core left Intel for dead due to intel's unwillingness to fix the inherant problems with their x86 platform). Going nVidia these days will also severely limit you as you need 2 of them to get any decent graphics, they are literally only about half the GPU of what ATI currently offer, and they run hot... DAMN HOT! the ATI 5970 based cards are currently the most powerful on the consumer market and NVidia doesn't look like they are going to be making any real effort any time soon. NVidia has attempted to solve the problem of lackluster GPU's by dumping more VRAM on the card, the average is around 1.5GB's per card stacked up against ATI's more powerful GPU cores with an average of 2GB on higher end cards (the black edition cards have 2 or 4 GB and have unlocked GPU's for some serious overclocking), the question of which brand of GPU to get kinda doesn't even need to be asked. Personally I would go with 2 ATI 5870's, the Gigabyte ones, as they have some serious cooling on the cards (2 fans and a heat sink that covers the whole card) over a 5970, as 2 5870's are slightly more powerful than a single 5970, that is because a 5970 based card literally has 2 GPU's, the same ones that the 5870 used, but they are slightly ramped down to keep the card within the 400W bracket. You could go for complete overkill and get 2 5970's, and hey while you're at it why not go for the eyefinity ones... space for 12 VDU's can't be a bad thing right? As for system RAM, I personally wouldn't use anything other than Corsair unless I really needed to for whatever reason. The dominator series, the heatsinks on those babies is serious, plus you get a RAM fan in the pack. For the motherboard, again I would go for gigabyte, one of the higher models, personally I think they make the best desktop boards on the market, as they have a 2 oz copper heatsink on the board for the cpu and a bunch of other features such as dual bios USB3.0 sata2 6Gb's and a bunch of other nice features. They've been rated as the best for several years by every PC magazine you care to mention, and get a decent rating from TOm's Hardware as well.

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