CodeProject article editor sucks ass [modified]
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
The way I do it is use Visual Studio to create/edit an HTML file. That way, you get syntax highlighting and auto-complete, and you can see the html itself. Before actually pasting the text into the CP editor, I "view in browser" to make sure I haven't done something untoward with the html tags. After pasting the text, I add the images at the appropriate places, and then I conduct preview/edit cycles until it looks okay, and then I submit it. It takes about 10 minutes from the time I start the wizard to the point at which I hit the submit button. That's the best way, IMHO, to submit an article to CP.
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I recommend writing in Visual Studio (or Visual Web Developer Express) and then pasting in the editor. You can also bypass the editor entirely by emailing your article to the CP staff. The editor does suck and they know it.
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I used Kompozer[^] for my first article and when I asked here for some advice on alternatives at least one kind respondent asked why I didn't use Visual Studio. I have done ever since for that kind of thing and it has many advantages. As the others have mentioned, I then use the Email route.
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
Judah Himango wrote:
author a post in Windows Live Writer
Sure you can do that and email it to Smitha. :)
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I agree with JSOP. I spent about ten minutes in the submission wizard with my last article.
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Judah Himango wrote:
author a post in Windows Live Writer
Sure you can do that and email it to Smitha. :)
Heh. Whenever a task involves "email this other person...", it kinds sucks the good right out, you know? Kind of a barrier I'd rather not deal with.
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himango -
I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
Funny, I've been working on an update for my WinForms article editor today. Old version: A Code Project Article Editor with Live Preview[^]. That version is out of date, but gives you an idea. The new version is quite stable, and has spell checking and thesaurus, and various bits and bobs including a prototype HTML validator. Would you like to do some beta testing? :) Nick
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Funny, I've been working on an update for my WinForms article editor today. Old version: A Code Project Article Editor with Live Preview[^]. That version is out of date, but gives you an idea. The new version is quite stable, and has spell checking and thesaurus, and various bits and bobs including a prototype HTML validator. Would you like to do some beta testing? :) Nick
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
CP should just integrate with Windows Live Writer :)
Ashish Kaila
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I will if you want?
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I assume the article is on the async ctp? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon
Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
Judah Himango wrote:
I authored my post in Word...
I've always used Notepad, and just viewed the HTML file locally until it was the way I want it. With the exception of one article, it's always worked fine. All told, it's a 5-10 minute process.
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"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
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I hate JSOP's downer threads about how X sucks, but I can't help myself: I am trying to write a CP article. Dear Lord, it has been painful: -Using my regular browser, Chrome 5, all kinds of editing doesn't work; I was forced to give up. (I can give specifics, but I assume this is a known issue.) -Using my secondary browser, Firefox 3.5, the image insertion tool doesn't work. (Probably more, gave up after images didn't work.) -I fell back to IE 9 Beta. Oh, hitting CTRL+Z to undo will either a) change a huge portion of text to a different formatting style or b) make your whole post go blank (yes, no text, can't edit, preview shows empty page, just lost 20 minutes of work). I authored my post in Word, knowing how crappy this experience is right now, yet that experience wasn't great either: pasting into CP resulted in all kinds of bad formatting, missing images, double spacing, and other problems. Doing the "Word cleanup" bit didn't help either. I suspect CP would get more (and better?) article submissions if this process were easier. Ideal experience: author a post in Windows Live Writer, publish to CP. (Does CP have an API to publish articles? I'd be willing to write a Live Writer plugin...) *edit* I managed to finish editing in IE 9 Beta. Have a looksie and enjoy: Building a Pandora Clone in Silverlight 4. :cool::thumbsup:
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Judah Himangomodified on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:35 PM
I use Office Frontpage, more than happy with it :)
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
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I assume the article is on the async ctp? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Funny. I actually considered using the Async CTP in the code, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz. :) Check it out: building a Pandora clone in Silverlight 4. :thumbsup:
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Judah Himango -
Funny. I actually considered using the Async CTP in the code, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz. :) Check it out: building a Pandora clone in Silverlight 4. :thumbsup:
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Judah HimangoJudah Himango wrote:
Funny. I actually considered it, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz.
Ah okay. I always associate you with the type of guy who'd be spending hours digging into the latest alphas/betas of anything C# or .NET related :-)
Regards, Nish
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Judah Himango wrote:
Funny. I actually considered it, but threw out the idea as frivolous article snaz.
Ah okay. I always associate you with the type of guy who'd be spending hours digging into the latest alphas/betas of anything C# or .NET related :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Good call, and you're right. :) If you check out the article, you'll see I use some fancy new tech (RX and CodeContracts) and comment on their viability and utility towards the end of the article.
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Judah Himango -
Judah Himango wrote:
I authored my post in Word...
I've always used Notepad, and just viewed the HTML file locally until it was the way I want it. With the exception of one article, it's always worked fine. All told, it's a 5-10 minute process.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Man who follows car will be exhausted." - Confucius
Old school!
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Judah Himango -
CP should just integrate with Windows Live Writer :)
Ashish Kaila
No. They really shouldn't.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Good call, and you're right. :) If you check out the article, you'll see I use some fancy new tech (RX and CodeContracts) and comment on their viability and utility towards the end of the article.
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Judah HimangoThanks for the link Judah, I will check it out.
Regards, Nish
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