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The Madness of a Lost Society

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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Good impersonation :laugh:

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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    Gonzoox
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    Thank you, thank you :-\

    I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

      It is not just goods, ever heard of outsourcing? It may have been mentioned on code project a few times. This is just capitalism working and you as a huge supporter of capitalism should be in full support of it. If the consumer wants goods then the supply must be found, that supply needs to sourced at it cheapest to deter competition and maximise profit this is how business is run its the "American way", to prevent this would need either to change buying habits and get Americans to buy more expensive "american products" or get the govenment to intervine (of wait that would mean the evil govenment making new laws and that is against your creed is it not?) or the mass reduction in wages to the level paid in third world countries so your manufacturing can compete on price. which choice do you want? by the way restriction on imports would impact on your exports as countries you export to dont like thier markets being taken from them, so unless you go for a China style system where the exports are so cheap you get the business despite your home market being closed (and find a big mug of a country to help out like china did) then you end up being stagnent.

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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      CaptainSeeSharp
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      Hidding Behind the Sofa wrote:

      This is just capitalism working and you as a huge supporter of capitalism should be in full support of it.

      I also support intelligent patriots that support the Constitution.

      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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      • K Keith Barrow

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        As this latest Black Friday clearly demonstrated, Americans are literally willing to trample one another to get the best deals on cheap foreign-made plastic crap

        Are you anti-capatilist now, or just simply anti-free trade?

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Proponents of outsourcing point to all the cheap goods filling our stores as a good thing, but they never tell us about all the good paying American jobs that have been lost.

        That problem is inherent, a society industrially progresses, an inflationary loop is inevitible: people want to spend more money on stuff so wages go up, as wages go up people want to spend more on stuff. Eventually the society becomes so well-paid that they stop being competative with countries with cheap-as-dirt labour.

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Sacrificing our industrial base for cheap foreign-made plastic crap is kind of like throwing your furniture into the fire to keep your house warm. We are literally participating in our own economic destruction.

        You want to see the result, take a good, long, hard look at the UK. This is one of the few ways we are still more "advanced" than the US. All you need is an economically devistating war and the parallels would be shocking. Actually, shocking isn't really the word as similar cycles have been repeated throughout history. I doubt the US will sink into the same sort of obscurity that we have any time soon, just due to its size, but this size creates another problem: a service economy just isn't going to be enough.

        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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        Keith Barrow wrote:

        That problem is inherent, a society industrially progresses, an inflationary loop is inevitible: people want to spend more money on stuff so wages go up, as wages go up people want to spend more on stuff. Eventually the society becomes so well-paid that they stop being competative with countries with cheap-as-dirt labour.

        This is due to a central bank creating new money to pay for government spending and to mismanage the economy. Inflation is driven by increase in money supply.

        Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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          A very well done short video.[^] http://www.infowars.com/americans-trample-one-another-to-get-their-hands-on-cheap-foreign-made-plastic-crap/[^] As this latest Black Friday clearly demonstrated, Americans are literally willing to trample one another to get the best deals on cheap foreign-made plastic crap. Meanwhile, as thousands of factories and millions of jobs continue to get shipped overseas, the United States is rapidly turning into a post-industrial wasteland. Once great manufacturing cities such as Camden, New Jersey have become crime-ridden, gang-infested hellholes. In some U.S. cities, the “real” unemployment rate is around 30 or 40 percent. The American people desperately need jobs, but the American people are also showing no signs that they plan to give up their addiction to cheap foreign goods. Our politicians keep insisting that the American people just need “more education” and “more skills” in order to compete, but they don’t ever seem to explain how more education and more skills are going to make new jobs pop into existence out of thin air. The truth is that the American Dream is rapidly becoming the American Nightmare and there is not much hope that any of this is going to turn around any time soon. The video posted below is a compilation of video footage from this past Black Friday. It is absolutely shocking to see what average Americans will do to each other just to save a little bit of money on cheap foreign-made goods…. Very few of the Americans in the video posted above probably even realize that this behavior is destroying our economy a little bit more every day. Proponents of outsourcing point to all the cheap goods filling our stores as a good thing, but they never tell us about all the good paying American jobs that have been lost. Sacrificing our industrial base for cheap foreign-made plastic crap is kind of like throwing your furniture into the fire to keep your house warm. We are literally participating in our own economic destruction.

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          Err according to your video the dollar collapsed ( at 2:08 ) in q3 2010. Please explain.

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            Err according to your video the dollar collapsed ( at 2:08 ) in q3 2010. Please explain.

            pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            The dollar is in the process of collapsing. Think of a large tower of boxes. The tower has already been nudged and is slowly about to tip over.

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              The dollar is in the process of collapsing. Think of a large tower of boxes. The tower has already been nudged and is slowly about to tip over.

              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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              Lost User
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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Think of a large tower of boxes. The tower has already been nudged and is slowly about to tip over.

              "Slowly about to"? Has it collapsed or not? What is the definition of the collapse of a currency?

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Keith Barrow wrote:

                That problem is inherent, a society industrially progresses, an inflationary loop is inevitible: people want to spend more money on stuff so wages go up, as wages go up people want to spend more on stuff. Eventually the society becomes so well-paid that they stop being competative with countries with cheap-as-dirt labour.

                This is due to a central bank creating new money to pay for government spending and to mismanage the economy. Inflation is driven by increase in money supply.

                Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                Keith Barrow
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                So how do you explain this before quantative easing? We had inflation way back, when the amount of money was tightly controlled.

                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                -Or-A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                • K Keith Barrow

                  So how do you explain this before quantative easing? We had inflation way back, when the amount of money was tightly controlled.

                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                  -Or-A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                  fjdiewornncalwe
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                  C'mon Keith... This is the back room. We're not supposed to be "logical" here with well, thought out arguments... :)

                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    The dollar is in the process of collapsing. Think of a large tower of boxes. The tower has already been nudged and is slowly about to tip over.

                    Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                    fjdiewornncalwe
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                    Been playing with your blocks again?

                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    • F fjdiewornncalwe

                      C'mon Keith... This is the back room. We're not supposed to be "logical" here with well, thought out arguments... :)

                      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      Awwwwww.... You spoiled my experiment.CSS is pretty much a syncretic being. He sees a video on YouTube or reads a website, adds it to his current belief system and then pastes it here. For example, he seems to like the Tea Party, but many of his posts are Marxist Theory (Communist at any rate:- the nuiances evade me) hidden behind a bunch of neogolisms. I wanted to see how he'd reconcile the "Facts" in is head: Fact a: Inflation is deliberately caused by central banks printing more money. (As stated in his post) Fact b: Inflation happened before central banks. (To be reconciled) I have a few theories, but I want to see which he'd commit to.

                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                      -Or-A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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