What's diff among developer and programmer?
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developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:
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We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?
Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.
Will Rogers never met me.
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We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?
Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
most of us have a degree in computer science
I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.
Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
whats makes the difference
Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I suspect you'll find most here don't.
I do. Would be an interesting CP poll.
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Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Henry Minute wrote:
Developers are often programmers. Programmers are mostly not developers.
Bravo :-D
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Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
most of us have a degree in computer science
I suspect you'll find most here don't. I don't.
Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
whats makes the difference
Sex appeal. Raw animal magnetism. Amazing prowess in the undercracker department.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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We have often used those terms, most of us have a degree in computer science, so whats makes the difference? Is that the working domain, expertise, passion?
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Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
most of us have a degree in computer science
Nope.
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Ok, lets not consider that
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Since I'm neither, I can give you an unbiased answer. A Developer does far more than just program. What your company gives you for a title means little, but if you have to analyze the problem, determine the requirements, allocate tasks among modules or between hardware and software, create the test plan, prepare the user documentation, meet with customers to discuss the project and the requirements, then you're a developer, whether you type code or not. If you receive a set of specs or requirements, have little influence over them, but are expected to deliver a piece of software that meets them, you're a programmer. As one who has done all of these in the past, and hired many others to do the same since, I think quite a lot of people in this profession are both developers and programmers, with different roles becoming dominant depending on the tasks assigned.
Will Rogers never met me.
Good observation, also we can consider developers are some what generalists without specializations (not always true, there is always exception), they are expert at finding ways around problems and plugging components together to fulfill a set of requirements programmers,they have a depth of skill in a wide area of expertise and have reasonably good knowledge in certain areas (specialization) What do u think?
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developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:
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developer and programmer both are engineers :laugh:
When I worked at Texas Instruments they said that you could not have the title of Software Engineer because in Texas state law says that engineers have to pass state exams and have to be licenses. We were all called Analysts.
Steve Maier
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Raw animal magnetism
I avoid going near railway tracks.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
Any problems with steel bedframes? Metal office supply cabinets? ;)
Will Rogers never met me.
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Good observation, also we can consider developers are some what generalists without specializations (not always true, there is always exception), they are expert at finding ways around problems and plugging components together to fulfill a set of requirements programmers,they have a depth of skill in a wide area of expertise and have reasonably good knowledge in certain areas (specialization) What do u think?
I'm inclined to think that programmers can be trained into their profession, but developers have to grow into the role. The ability to integrate solutions and ideas from many sources, including many other fields, is invaluable and can't be learned in school.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
most of us have a degree in computer science
Nope.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
As a fellow consumer of yoghurt, are you enjoying the current price war?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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As a fellow consumer of yoghurt, are you enjoying the current price war?
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I make my own yoghurt (and no, that's not a euphemism).
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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I make my own yoghurt (and no, that's not a euphemism).
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
I make my own cheese. And that is! :-D
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Any problems with steel bedframes? Metal office supply cabinets? ;)
Will Rogers never met me.
that's getting awful personal Roger, careful or the claws might come out.
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I make my own cheese. And that is! :-D
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Seriously, you should try making your own yoghurt. It's great because you can try out your own variations.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Shahriar Iqbal Chowdhury wrote:
most of us have a degree in computer science
Nope.
Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]
I'd be surprised if more than 10 % of us did. Anyhoo, a programmer is the dude who slugs in the machine code to say a shift register, or a plastics injection moulder line - a developer designs applications and may also do the programming for same. I do both, but work in house for a reasonably well sized corporation. (So if I fuck up it is pretty obvious who's fault it is) ((so I don't))
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