Wikileaks has been taken down by American Internet Company
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
This is a touchy subject to say the least. I agree and disagree at the same time. I'll have to think about this for a while. National security is important to every country. At the same time each country's citizens deserver to know what is going on with "their" country. Freedom of speach is definitely on the chopping block today.
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This is a touchy subject to say the least. I agree and disagree at the same time. I'll have to think about this for a while. National security is important to every country. At the same time each country's citizens deserver to know what is going on with "their" country. Freedom of speach is definitely on the chopping block today.
The more people can do without being scrutinised or held accountable for their actions, the more they will do.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The more people can do without being scrutinised or held accountable for their actions, the more they will do.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Those in power must be scrutinised.
I agree with your comment completely. Absolutely. At the same time, I'm sure England doesn't want their enemies finding out about their secrets, good or bad. You and I both were in the military. We both know that National security is very important. The question is. How do you inform the people without compromising security? I don't think you can...it's a no win situation for both sides.
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The old question: Does the government serve the people or do the people have to serve the government? It's strange that they always claim the first and try to do the second.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Those in power must be scrutinised.
I agree with your comment completely. Absolutely. At the same time, I'm sure England doesn't want their enemies finding out about their secrets, good or bad. You and I both were in the military. We both know that National security is very important. The question is. How do you inform the people without compromising security? I don't think you can...it's a no win situation for both sides.
Slacker007 wrote:
How do you inform the people without compromising security?
damn if you do, damn if you don't. Now, most/all diplomatic cables will be marked as top-classified and will not be as easily accessible; that means that the right-wing nut will scream that the state is spending more and more of their money, and the left-wing nuts will scream about conspiracies (and vice-versa).
Watched code never compiles.
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Just the DNS by the looks of things "EveryDNS.net provided domain name system (DNS) services to the wikileaks.org domain name until 10PM EST, December 2, 2010, when such services were terminated. As with other users of the EveryDNS.net network, this service was provided for free. The termination of services was effected pursuant to, and in accordance with, the EveryDNS.net Acceptable Use Policy. See more. More specifically, the services were terminated for violation of the provision which states that "Member shall not interfere with another Member's use and enjoyment of the Service or another entity's use and enjoyment of similar services." The interference at issues arises from the fact that wikileaks.org has become the target of multiple distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks. These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites. Thus, last night, at approximately 10PM EST, December 1, 2010 a 24 hour termination notification email was sent to the email address associated with the wikileaks.org account. In addition to this email, notices were sent to Wikileaks via Twitter and the chat function available through the wikileaks.org website. Any downtime of the wikileaks.org website has resulted from its failure to use another hosted DNS service provider." Access by IP all good http://213.251.145.96/[^]
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Just the DNS by the looks of things "EveryDNS.net provided domain name system (DNS) services to the wikileaks.org domain name until 10PM EST, December 2, 2010, when such services were terminated. As with other users of the EveryDNS.net network, this service was provided for free. The termination of services was effected pursuant to, and in accordance with, the EveryDNS.net Acceptable Use Policy. See more. More specifically, the services were terminated for violation of the provision which states that "Member shall not interfere with another Member's use and enjoyment of the Service or another entity's use and enjoyment of similar services." The interference at issues arises from the fact that wikileaks.org has become the target of multiple distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks. These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites. Thus, last night, at approximately 10PM EST, December 1, 2010 a 24 hour termination notification email was sent to the email address associated with the wikileaks.org account. In addition to this email, notices were sent to Wikileaks via Twitter and the chat function available through the wikileaks.org website. Any downtime of the wikileaks.org website has resulted from its failure to use another hosted DNS service provider." Access by IP all good http://213.251.145.96/[^]
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The old question: Does the government serve the people or do the people have to serve the government? It's strange that they always claim the first and try to do the second.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
Which is why we have a law in the US that allows us to have guns. It is not about hunting or home protection it is about making the government cautious of oppressing you. I've been following this on SIPERNet and the tipping point seems to be that "they" embarrassed the state department and Hillary complained. Given the resources available to government organizations with three letter acronyms and their ability to "remain undetected" it is not really surprising. Course if they were just "military" leaks that would be fine (with them) but don't go embarrassing our state departments. Typical Bill SOF Imperative #11 Provide sufficient intelligence
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Just the DNS by the looks of things "EveryDNS.net provided domain name system (DNS) services to the wikileaks.org domain name until 10PM EST, December 2, 2010, when such services were terminated. As with other users of the EveryDNS.net network, this service was provided for free. The termination of services was effected pursuant to, and in accordance with, the EveryDNS.net Acceptable Use Policy. See more. More specifically, the services were terminated for violation of the provision which states that "Member shall not interfere with another Member's use and enjoyment of the Service or another entity's use and enjoyment of similar services." The interference at issues arises from the fact that wikileaks.org has become the target of multiple distributed denial of service (DDOS) attacks. These attacks have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites. Thus, last night, at approximately 10PM EST, December 1, 2010 a 24 hour termination notification email was sent to the email address associated with the wikileaks.org account. In addition to this email, notices were sent to Wikileaks via Twitter and the chat function available through the wikileaks.org website. Any downtime of the wikileaks.org website has resulted from its failure to use another hosted DNS service provider." Access by IP all good http://213.251.145.96/[^]
Well the only "sane" answer is that we sure must have a lot of organized patriotic people out there to conduct such a well organized DOSA. Thousands of people all getting up in the middle of the night and logging in at the same time …… It is the only way to explain such things. Now someone is going to say “ it’s an illegal government plot to cover their posteriors.” I would note that governments determine what is and what is not illegal! Bill SOF Imperative #9 Develop multiple options
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Well the only "sane" answer is that we sure must have a lot of organized patriotic people out there to conduct such a well organized DOSA. Thousands of people all getting up in the middle of the night and logging in at the same time …… It is the only way to explain such things. Now someone is going to say “ it’s an illegal government plot to cover their posteriors.” I would note that governments determine what is and what is not illegal! Bill SOF Imperative #9 Develop multiple options
Yes, must be that - no way would any government engage in DDOS 'cyber attack' tactics. I reckon it's 4chan, they're to blame for everything on the internet. :)
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Which is why we have a law in the US that allows us to have guns. It is not about hunting or home protection it is about making the government cautious of oppressing you. I've been following this on SIPERNet and the tipping point seems to be that "they" embarrassed the state department and Hillary complained. Given the resources available to government organizations with three letter acronyms and their ability to "remain undetected" it is not really surprising. Course if they were just "military" leaks that would be fine (with them) but don't go embarrassing our state departments. Typical Bill SOF Imperative #11 Provide sufficient intelligence
Bill, where have you been in the last 4 years? Or...are you an existing member and this is your "other" account? Anyways, I agree with you on the State department getting caught with their pants down...again.
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Yes, must be that - no way would any government engage in DDOS 'cyber attack' tactics. I reckon it's 4chan, they're to blame for everything on the internet. :)
ah! chan4chan.
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Wikileaks would be more credible if they were publishing secrets stolen from more than ONE country. I see no leaked documents stolen from Russia, China, Iran, or even Australia. It has never been possible to conduct diplomacy completely in the open. Political leaders cannot make candid statements that might be unpopular in their own country, so positions end up being polarized and agreement stays out of reach. Just look at the U.S. congress if you doubt that. Wikileaks serves only the self aggrandizement of a piss-ant ex-hacker who hates all things American. What he will succeed in doing is to insure the regulation and censorship of the internet, as governments use his actions to justify filtering and blocking anything they find threatening. his recklessness will only hurt freedom, not enhance it. No doubt governments (and not just the U.S.) are behind the DDNS attack, who would expect less?
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Bill, where have you been in the last 4 years? Or...are you an existing member and this is your "other" account? Anyways, I agree with you on the State department getting caught with their pants down...again.
lurking in the background, it's what I do. Actually, I got devorce, married, got custody of my kids back from the EX....... kinda had my attention.
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ah! chan4chan.
See, the PSYOP campaign is working just fine!! Bill SOF Imperative #7 anticipate and control the psychological effects
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Wikileaks would be more credible if they were publishing secrets stolen from more than ONE country. I see no leaked documents stolen from Russia, China, Iran, or even Australia. It has never been possible to conduct diplomacy completely in the open. Political leaders cannot make candid statements that might be unpopular in their own country, so positions end up being polarized and agreement stays out of reach. Just look at the U.S. congress if you doubt that. Wikileaks serves only the self aggrandizement of a piss-ant ex-hacker who hates all things American. What he will succeed in doing is to insure the regulation and censorship of the internet, as governments use his actions to justify filtering and blocking anything they find threatening. his recklessness will only hurt freedom, not enhance it. No doubt governments (and not just the U.S.) are behind the DDNS attack, who would expect less?
Kinda hard to do that since they rely on people and those folks (rascals IMHO) typically only have access to one nations secrets. Bill SOF Imperative #12 Balance security and synchronization
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See Here[^]. They give a bullshit reason, I think they have been got at by the CIA. Fortunately, there is a redirect site here at Wikileeks[^], presumably an encyclopedia of garden vegetables?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
I've admittedly not read much of the leaked cables but what little I've read or seen reported is IMHO actually pretty good. I'm glad to see our diplomats being basically honest and candid, I had fears they were as bad as our politicians. IMO the leaks are worse news to other countries than to the US. As for supporting Wikileaks the way you are... be careful what you ask for - these things have a way of biting back and causing very unexpected results.