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  • P Pete OHanlon

    As far as I know, Dennis Clever was never a thuggish footballer.

    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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    Dalek Dave
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    Yeah but the three wise men obviously weren't very wise either. They go to see the king, and when the king asked where they were going, replied "To see the New King". Wuckfits. BTW what did Jesus's mother do with all that gold?

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      Yeah but the three wise men obviously weren't very wise either. They go to see the king, and when the king asked where they were going, replied "To see the New King". Wuckfits. BTW what did Jesus's mother do with all that gold?

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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      Keith Barrow
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      WuckfitsSwivewits

      FTFY :-)

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        As far as I know, Dennis Clever was never a thuggish footballer.

        I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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        Lost User
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        I tried almost same as Macmillan dictionary however English is not my mother tongue, yes i can.

        I only read newbie introductory dummy books.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Clever is being able to get oneself out of a sticky situation. Wise is not getting into it in the first place. More specifically, cleverness is an quantitative attribute of knowledge, the more you know, the cleverer you are. Wisdom is a processive attribute, that is to say that you may not know as much, but you can use what you know far more efficiently.

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          Luc Pattyn
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          well said. now explain wisecrack instead of clevercrack. :)

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Yeah but the three wise men obviously weren't very wise either. They go to see the king, and when the king asked where they were going, replied "To see the New King". Wuckfits. BTW what did Jesus's mother do with all that gold?

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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            Lost User
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            BTW what did Jesus's mother do with all that gold?

            Stuck it in an envelope and sent it off to have it converted into cash.

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            • S super

              Can someone clarify me the difference between "Clever" and "Wise"? Any context with examples is welcome. I assumed that "wise" is generally linked with experience, age and also may be with men. But It seems I was not 100% accurate. So anyone, Please help me :)

              cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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              Media2r
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              Clever is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. //L

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                Clever is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. //L

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                NormDroid
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                Good answer :)

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                • M Media2r

                  Clever is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. //L

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                  Sathesh Sakthivel
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                  Well Said :laugh:

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Clever is being able to get oneself out of a sticky situation. Wise is not getting into it in the first place. More specifically, cleverness is an quantitative attribute of knowledge, the more you know, the cleverer you are. Wisdom is a processive attribute, that is to say that you may not know as much, but you can use what you know far more efficiently.

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                    super
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                    So wise can be used to describe a little girl/boy too. Thank you for the clarification.

                    cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                    • S super

                      Can someone clarify me the difference between "Clever" and "Wise"? Any context with examples is welcome. I assumed that "wise" is generally linked with experience, age and also may be with men. But It seems I was not 100% accurate. So anyone, Please help me :)

                      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Cleverness is about reasoning ability; wisdom is about knowledge.

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                      • S Slacker007

                        Well said.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        Well said.

                        Except that it's the wrong way around. Wisdom is gained from experience (i.e. it is accumulated knowledge), and cleverness is the ability to use available knowledge (i.e. no experience required -- but every little helps, obviously). This is why you can say "a clever young man" without any apology, but to say a young man is wise, you have to add that he is wise "beyond his years". "Wise old man", on the other hand, is an extremely common usage for someone who has seen it all, and "clever old man" is used, more often than not, insultingly, for someone who is old enough to be wise, but who exhibits the foolishness of youth.

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                        • S super

                          So wise can be used to describe a little girl/boy too. Thank you for the clarification.

                          cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          super wrote:

                          So wise can be used to describe a little girl/boy too.

                          No, it can't. See my above posting. DD! STOP TEACHING JOHNNY FOREIGNER BAD ENGLISH!

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Clever is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. //L

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                            Chris Meech
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                            Really good answer. :)

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                            • S super

                              Can someone clarify me the difference between "Clever" and "Wise"? Any context with examples is welcome. I assumed that "wise" is generally linked with experience, age and also may be with men. But It seems I was not 100% accurate. So anyone, Please help me :)

                              cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                              AspDotNetDev
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                              You would be clever if you invented the atomic bomb. You would be wise to not use it. Cleverness is more about mental ability. Wisdom is about decision making. The wiser you are, the better decisions you make. The more clever you are, the more choices you have. Neither wisdom nore cleverness require knowledge, though they are both improved by it (most of the time). Wisdom typically comes with experience, whereas cleverness can be evident before you even learn to speak. Some examples... The wise idiot knows not to apply for a programmer job. The clever idiot hires somebody to make their resume good enough to get a programmer job (and then fail at that job, gaining a bad reference in the process). The clever genius makes the atomic bomb. The wise genius forms a committee to decide how to use that technology. To be more clever than you are wise is dangerous.

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