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  • R Roger Wright

    Lego always has, but I fear they may not be up to this challenge.

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    bryce
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    i _dare_ ya B

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    • R Roger Wright

      Great idea! But those blocks tend to come apart at the worst of times, and I wouldn't care to be the one to chase after them down there.

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      ChandraRam
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      • R Roger Wright

        I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

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        mattjml
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        ocrobotics.com

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        • R Roger Wright

          I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

          Will Rogers never met me.

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          Snowman58
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          Seems to me to be an application for fiber optics similar to this ProVision-SLIPV2636-Pro-Vision-Hi-Definition[^] combined with Inspection-Scope-Camera-Coupler-ProVision[^] Build a 300 ft extension cable and hook to a powered snake. Which probably would snap the fiber optic cable! So alternatively can you run a snake to an access point and then attach a line and pull the camera?

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          • R Roger Wright

            I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            Dan Neely
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            I think you're being overly optimistic on the cost. A 30lbs class battlebot powered by wallyworld cordless drills (cheapest source of motors, lion batteries, and chargers) combined with a decent handheld wireless controller will set you back a few hundred bucks in parts even if it's just a basic wedge design.

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            • R Roger Wright

              It's an excellent suggestion, but I'm afraid the lines in question are a bit longer than 130'. I may still try it, as I can design a decent video amp to extend the cable, but the boss keeps me stuck in admin stuff these days, and doesn't let me play designer very often. :(

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              BarrRobot
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              Or try this http://www.fiberscope.net/servlet/the-Pipe-Inspection/Categories[^] - 120m (approx 400ft) for $6000 ?

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                ocrobotics.com

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                Roger Wright
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                Cool stuff! But to reach where we need to inspect, the snake would have to be autonomous, and these products are tethered to a control box.

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                • B BarrRobot

                  Or try this http://www.fiberscope.net/servlet/the-Pipe-Inspection/Categories[^] - 120m (approx 400ft) for $6000 ?

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Bingo! Since I'm off today I've sent it on to the boss. I think that will do the job - Thanks! :-D

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Bingo! Since I'm off today I've sent it on to the boss. I think that will do the job - Thanks! :-D

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                    BarrRobot
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                    My pleasure.

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      What have you been using it for until now?

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                      wizardzz
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                      I don't own any Barbies. I mentioned it because the FBI seems pretty concerned about that toy.

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

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                        Chris Quinn
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                        When working at an aquarium, we used cameras from these guys: Submertec[^] They do a camera on a telescopic pole that you could push down the sewer - lower tech than a robot, but also less likely to fail!

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          Lost User
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                          Underwater cameras w/led illumination, viewing screen and 60 ft of cable are less than $500. Figure out a way to get it down the pipe and you got it made. ss

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                            I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            cyplesma
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                            give up some links to what robots your looking at and maybe someone can do some reverse engineering in their back yard for 500 - 1K bucks.

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              I've been pricing robotic cameras for sewer pipe inspections, and I'm appalled at the pricing! For a unit that can traverse a 6" pipe, they want $25,000, and that's before options to make it more usable! I'm thinking that $5000 is more realistic, assuming only a 1000% profit. Does anyone know of such a product, or something that can be adapted to this purpose, that sells for a more realistic price? Note that while it must be water resistant, it doesn't have to be water proof as we drain the line before inspection.

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              DarthDana
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                              I've seen several wireless camera recommendations in these posts. The problem with wireless is that it doesn't travel very far through earth. If the pipes are underground that could be a problem, especially if you need to go 500 feet. That is also the case if the pipe is metal. Most stuff of this nature broadcasts somewhere around 2.5Ghz. That would give a wavelength around 4.7 inches. So, the pipe might act like a waveguide and carry the signal back to the source and it could be received there. But, don't know, never tried it...

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                                I've seen several wireless camera recommendations in these posts. The problem with wireless is that it doesn't travel very far through earth. If the pipes are underground that could be a problem, especially if you need to go 500 feet. That is also the case if the pipe is metal. Most stuff of this nature broadcasts somewhere around 2.5Ghz. That would give a wavelength around 4.7 inches. So, the pipe might act like a waveguide and carry the signal back to the source and it could be received there. But, don't know, never tried it...

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                                Roger Wright
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                                I know - wireless sucks through ground, and the VLF frequencies that do work don't have enough signal bandwidth for a video signal. I think the solution is going to have to be tethered by a cable, but all the models I've seen have a limit of 6' to 100' of cable. I suppose I could design a preamp module to extend the cable reach, but it's so hard to find parts nowadays that can be hand soldered; everything is designed for machine insertion and mass production.

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  I know - wireless sucks through ground, and the VLF frequencies that do work don't have enough signal bandwidth for a video signal. I think the solution is going to have to be tethered by a cable, but all the models I've seen have a limit of 6' to 100' of cable. I suppose I could design a preamp module to extend the cable reach, but it's so hard to find parts nowadays that can be hand soldered; everything is designed for machine insertion and mass production.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  DarthDana
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                                  You might try a test run with a generic wireless camera to see if the pipe will act as a waveguide.

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