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I haven't learned to hate VB

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  • C CT Buckweed

    Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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    VB is kinda like dog crap - you avoid stepping in it, and are eager to wash off the stink after you have. It's a natural human reaction to crap.

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    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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    • C CT Buckweed

      Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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      Mike Hankey
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      It's changed a lot since then...the IDE now adds the line numbers automatically!

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      • C CT Buckweed

        Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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        Dr Walt Fair PE
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        I find VB a very nice tool for screening programmers. If a job applicant claims to be an expert VB programmer and nothing else, don't call us, we'll call you ... next.

        CQ de W5ALT

        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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        • C CT Buckweed

          Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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          Henry Minute
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          I think it's genetic.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          • C CT Buckweed

            Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I had to program in VAX BASIC on my college co-op job. The job I've had for the last few months is VB.net, but it's only used to write simple methods for an in-house-developed rule-based system. I would never try to use it to develop a regular system.

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            • D Dr Walt Fair PE

              I find VB a very nice tool for screening programmers. If a job applicant claims to be an expert VB programmer and nothing else, don't call us, we'll call you ... next.

              CQ de W5ALT

              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

              next

              How nice of you to use a keyword they'd recognize :rolleyes:.

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                Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                next

                How nice of you to use a keyword they'd recognize :rolleyes:.

                Software Zen: delete this;
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                realJSOP
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                It's not a key word if you put brackets around it. After saying that, I realize that I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                • R realJSOP

                  It's not a key word if you put brackets around it. After saying that, I realize that I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  ... I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                  Yeah, same here! It was probably the 5th or 6th programming language I learned.

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                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                    It's not a key word if you put brackets around it. After saying that, I realize that I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    Ach. I know you can do the same thing in C# using an '@' character as a prefix. I guess we need to scrub out our brains with a wire brush.

                    Software Zen: delete this;
                    Fold With Us![^]

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                    • C CT Buckweed

                      Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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                      I don't know why all 'serious' programmer always blame VB. VB.NET is practicaly identical to C# exept the syntax. You can do everything in VB.NET what you can do in C#. There are stupid guys doning stupid things and asking stupid questions at Code Project, and they normaly don't program in C#, thats right. But that is not the fault of the language. There are lot of stipid people talking english, but no one blames the english language for it... Best regrads: Didi P.S. I program in VB.NET for many years now, and I am happy with it, and does not know why I should learn the cryptic C# syntax just to look serious...

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                      • D DidiKunz

                        I don't know why all 'serious' programmer always blame VB. VB.NET is practicaly identical to C# exept the syntax. You can do everything in VB.NET what you can do in C#. There are stupid guys doning stupid things and asking stupid questions at Code Project, and they normaly don't program in C#, thats right. But that is not the fault of the language. There are lot of stipid people talking english, but no one blames the english language for it... Best regrads: Didi P.S. I program in VB.NET for many years now, and I am happy with it, and does not know why I should learn the cryptic C# syntax just to look serious...

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                        I started with QuickBasic 4.5, self-taught many years ago when I was working as the company Electronics Engineer. Wrote small applications mainly to view the rs-232 output from the hardware the company used. Now I am using VB.Net 2010 and updating an application which I started writing in VB5 when it first came out. So far we have sold about USD3 million worth of the software and have other copies rented out bringing in maybe USD10k/month. So, can't see anything wrong with VB myself - I mightn't be the best programmer in the world but I manage to keep a company with 15 support staff (call center, technicians, etc - no other programmers) afloat for the past 10 years.

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                        • C CT Buckweed

                          Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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                          Michael Kingsford Gray
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                          Try VB.Net 2010 It is a different animal altogether. If you don't like it, that is less competition for me!

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                          • D DidiKunz

                            I don't know why all 'serious' programmer always blame VB. VB.NET is practicaly identical to C# exept the syntax. You can do everything in VB.NET what you can do in C#. There are stupid guys doning stupid things and asking stupid questions at Code Project, and they normaly don't program in C#, thats right. But that is not the fault of the language. There are lot of stipid people talking english, but no one blames the english language for it... Best regrads: Didi P.S. I program in VB.NET for many years now, and I am happy with it, and does not know why I should learn the cryptic C# syntax just to look serious...

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                            Michael Kingsford Gray
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                            Quite. The knee-jerk reactions against VB are from jerks who have either never used it, know nothing about it, or cannot program in any language. VB 2010 is a very mature and capable development language, targeted at large to huge corporate projects.

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                            • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                              Quite. The knee-jerk reactions against VB are from jerks who have either never used it, know nothing about it, or cannot program in any language. VB 2010 is a very mature and capable development language, targeted at large to huge corporate projects.

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                              Chris Quinn
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                              As I always say, it's not the tool that is used that's the problem, but the tool that uses it!

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                                As I always say, it's not the tool that is used that's the problem, but the tool that uses it!

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                                Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                ...or complains bitterly about it, whilst at the same time admitting that they know nothing about it. Good luck to these know-nothing bozos. They reduce my competition.

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  I had to program in VAX BASIC on my college co-op job. The job I've had for the last few months is VB.net, but it's only used to write simple methods for an in-house-developed rule-based system. I would never try to use it to develop a regular system.

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                                  Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                  What? VB.Net 2010 is designed from the ground up as a data-centric, *large* corporate business software development language! With tight integration into SQL Server technologies.

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                                  • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                                    Quite. The knee-jerk reactions against VB are from jerks who have either never used it, know nothing about it, or cannot program in any language. VB 2010 is a very mature and capable development language, targeted at large to huge corporate projects.

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Michael K Gray wrote:

                                    huge corporate projects

                                    No, I use it at work now; it's rubbish. X|

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                                    • C CT Buckweed

                                      Luckily, I haven't ever had to code in VB. That last coding I did in BASIC was GWBasic way back 25 years or so ago. line 10, 20 30.... goto 20, etc.

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                                      There is a great deal of technology snobbery in the world today. The VB programmer fails on at least three counts: 1: He's using a Microsoft OS 2: He's using the Visual Basic language. 3: He's probably looking up information on MSDN using IE. This causes a few vocal members of the Linux/Apple community to run around with their hair on fire. The Firefox people are in the back of the room rolling their eyes griping about security and the C# folks are in the john reading the sports page because they refuse to socialize with the unwashed VB philistines. The great lesson in life is this: There are people who will seize upon anything to establish some sense of superiority. These people may be good resources for bits of technical knowledge but they've nothing to offer in regards to attitude. Take the tidbits they offer, throw out the marketing, and win.

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        It's not a key word if you put brackets around it. After saying that, I realize that I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        Euhemerus
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        I realize that I know way more about VB than I ever really wanted to.

                                        Or than you should ever admit to. :laugh:

                                        Nobody can get the truth out of me because even I don't know what it is. I keep myself in a constant state of utter confusion. - Col. Flagg

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                                        • E EinA

                                          I started with QuickBasic 4.5, self-taught many years ago when I was working as the company Electronics Engineer. Wrote small applications mainly to view the rs-232 output from the hardware the company used. Now I am using VB.Net 2010 and updating an application which I started writing in VB5 when it first came out. So far we have sold about USD3 million worth of the software and have other copies rented out bringing in maybe USD10k/month. So, can't see anything wrong with VB myself - I mightn't be the best programmer in the world but I manage to keep a company with 15 support staff (call center, technicians, etc - no other programmers) afloat for the past 10 years.

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                                          EinA wrote:

                                          self-taught many years ago

                                          Well, that it explains it. ;P

                                          EinA wrote:

                                          15 support staff (call center, technicians, etc - no other programmers)

                                          One programmer, 15 support staff. Now there's a reason to code in Basic if I ever heard one. :confused:

                                          Gary

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