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  • R realJSOP

    I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

    modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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      realJSOP
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      I prefer to use the term "shameless plug" (if you're talking about the CPAM3 reference). :)

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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      • R realJSOP

        I prefer to use the term "shameless plug" (if you're talking about the CPAM3 reference). :)

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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        Shameless plug it is then.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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        • R realJSOP

          I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

          modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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          Henry Minute
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          Did you not get an email from the message('m') attached to the vote? BTW: upvoted, as per instructions.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          • R realJSOP

            I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
            -----
            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

            modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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            Done.

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            • R realJSOP

              I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

              modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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              Luc Pattyn
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              One step closer to message and vote removal. :)

              Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

              Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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              • H Henry Minute

                Did you not get an email from the message('m') attached to the vote? BTW: upvoted, as per instructions.

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                Luc Pattyn
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                Did you actually read the instructions? rejection by up-voting now?? :-D

                Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  Did you actually read the instructions? rejection by up-voting now?? :-D

                  Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                  Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                  Henry Minute
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                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                  Did you actually read the instructions?

                  Yes, very badly though. I actually did both. ;P

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Did you not get an email from the message('m') attached to the vote? BTW: upvoted, as per instructions.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    realJSOP
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                    Henry Minute wrote:

                    Did you not get an email from the message('m') attached to the vote?

                    I don't leave my email program up (I hate running apps I'm not currently using - a side effect of using computers back when available memory was a precious commodity), and as you might guess, I get a lot of CodeProject related email (maybe 100 or so messages per day). I could have just missed it, or I used CPAM before checking my mail. I have a lot going on right now.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    • L Luc Pattyn

                      Did you actually read the instructions? rejection by up-voting now?? :-D

                      Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                      Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                      realJSOP
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                      I certainly don't want votes that are undeserved, but Henry obviously thinks I can pretty much do no wrong. Of course, I don't know if it's a deep-seated (and understandable) respect for my efforts that gives him that impression, or if it's fear that I might exact some sort of firearm-related reprisal if he doesn't automatically vote everything I do here with a 5. :)

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                      -----
                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                      • R realJSOP

                        I certainly don't want votes that are undeserved, but Henry obviously thinks I can pretty much do no wrong. Of course, I don't know if it's a deep-seated (and understandable) respect for my efforts that gives him that impression, or if it's fear that I might exact some sort of firearm-related reprisal if he doesn't automatically vote everything I do here with a 5. :)

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                        -----
                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                        Luc Pattyn
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                        IMO even life saving reflexes should be scrutinized once in a while, but only when things got back to normal of course. :)

                        Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                        Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                        • R realJSOP

                          I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                          -----
                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                          modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          As an expert "message from space" decoder, ypu could have decoded the message "m". I am sure it means something.

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            As an expert "message from space" decoder, ypu could have decoded the message "m". I am sure it means something.

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                            realJSOP
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                            Well, "m" can't logically be decoded into a message from an intelligent being, so it can therefore only be determined to be natural background clutter. It's kind of like seeing a mud shack and proclaiming "Civilization!", when it could also be easily explained away as a "happy accident" that a natural formation just happened to provide something that resembles shelter for lower life forms...

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            • R realJSOP

                              Well, "m" can't logically be decoded into a message from an intelligent being, so it can therefore only be determined to be natural background clutter. It's kind of like seeing a mud shack and proclaiming "Civilization!", when it could also be easily explained away as a "happy accident" that a natural formation just happened to provide something that resembles shelter for lower life forms...

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                              -----
                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              Dr Walt Fair PE
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              It's kind of like seeing a mud shack and proclaiming "Civilization!", when it could also be easily explained away as a "happy accident" that a natural formation just happened to provide something that resembles shelter for lower life forms...

                              He was probably offering some alternate source code. I've seen a lot of programs that could be described as a coincidence (happy or not). At least "m" would be easy to debug. :laugh:

                              CQ de W5ALT

                              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                              • R realJSOP

                                I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                                modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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                                The fact that you were using floating point numbers for calculations involving money raises a red flag to the reader. You might want to edit that first paragraph as it made me feel like I couldn't trust the contents of the article since the author seems to believe you can convert between base-10 and base-2 without problems. Just a suggestion.

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                                  The fact that you were using floating point numbers for calculations involving money raises a red flag to the reader. You might want to edit that first paragraph as it made me feel like I couldn't trust the contents of the article since the author seems to believe you can convert between base-10 and base-2 without problems. Just a suggestion.

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                                  The reasons behind using floating point numbers are many (and irrelevant). The fact that we needed a viable comparison WAS relevant. The original code was written in 1984 in GWbasic, and had gone through several conversions through compiled basic, and Turbo Pascal before finally landing in C++. At no point was a decimal type available, and the original data files were using doubles when I took over the code in 1988. The code it was used in was recursively calculating a value using what-if scenarios, and often, it came down to trying to resolve 0.00001 dollars. Because of the nature of the calculations AND double data types, I had no choice but to use an AlmostEqual method. I guess you shouldn't try to read things into what was in the article. Beyond all of what I just said, this thread isn't about the article - it's about an invalid 1 vote for the article. If you feel the need to discuss said article, you should restrict your comments to the article's message area.

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  • R realJSOP

                                    I certainly don't want votes that are undeserved, but Henry obviously thinks I can pretty much do no wrong. Of course, I don't know if it's a deep-seated (and understandable) respect for my efforts that gives him that impression, or if it's fear that I might exact some sort of firearm-related reprisal if he doesn't automatically vote everything I do here with a 5. :)

                                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                    Henry Minute
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    or if it's fear that I might exact some sort of firearm-related reprisal

                                    Well I read Backfire and thought it was a gunshot.

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      Well, "m" can't logically be decoded into a message from an intelligent being, so it can therefore only be determined to be natural background clutter. It's kind of like seeing a mud shack and proclaiming "Civilization!", when it could also be easily explained away as a "happy accident" that a natural formation just happened to provide something that resembles shelter for lower life forms...

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      "m" can't logically be decoded into a message

                                      It can, however, be interpreted as the signature of a voter too lazy to type his full name, "moron."

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      • R realJSOP

                                        I need help rejecting a 1 vote on an article I wrote several years ago. The reason given for the vote was "m". Yes that's right, just a single letter. It looks like the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working out very well, because the only way to eradicate an invalid vote is hoping enough people notice it and help to fix it. Maybe we need a "Report this message" option for articles... Here's the article: Reliable Floating Point Equality Comparison[^] BTW, I discovered this 1 vote by using CPAM3. :) EDIT ========================= Mission Accomplished (where's G.W.Bush when you need him?). I would like to thank those who participated for their timely response to my little crisis.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

                                        modified on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:56 AM

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        the "give us a reason for voting 1 or 2" thing isn't really working

                                        It never has; it was a poorly-thought-out idea from the start. I believe I said so at the time.

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          The reasons behind using floating point numbers are many (and irrelevant). The fact that we needed a viable comparison WAS relevant. The original code was written in 1984 in GWbasic, and had gone through several conversions through compiled basic, and Turbo Pascal before finally landing in C++. At no point was a decimal type available, and the original data files were using doubles when I took over the code in 1988. The code it was used in was recursively calculating a value using what-if scenarios, and often, it came down to trying to resolve 0.00001 dollars. Because of the nature of the calculations AND double data types, I had no choice but to use an AlmostEqual method. I guess you shouldn't try to read things into what was in the article. Beyond all of what I just said, this thread isn't about the article - it's about an invalid 1 vote for the article. If you feel the need to discuss said article, you should restrict your comments to the article's message area.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          bob16972
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          this thread isn't about the article - it's about an invalid 1 vote for the article

                                          I guess I wouldn't know since you had some people help you remove and obscure what they had to say before I had a chance to read it. For all I know, they might have made a good and valid point against your article/technique. Who knows since it has been "removed".

                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          If you feel the need to discuss said article, you should restrict your comments to the article's message area.

                                          For you as well. Requesting everyones help in the lounge to fight a battle in one of your article's message areas? Come on now.

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