My Wife Almost Shot Someone This Morning
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Why? Because the guy came to do the job he was contracted for? Koo-koo... Is anybody home?
:laugh: that's America :-\
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I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens, where it is so simple to buy and own guns... It seems to me that you're fanatical in expecting the worse from everything that happens. Also the way your wife handled the affair by going directly to the gun even before the poor guy stated his business is a sign of a different way of thinking between europeans and americans. I think it is sad to live in such a perpetual mistrust. Cheers
federico.strati wrote:
I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens
You've been listening to too much propoganda BS. No, this isn't typical in the U.S.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens, where it is so simple to buy and own guns... It seems to me that you're fanatical in expecting the worse from everything that happens. Also the way your wife handled the affair by going directly to the gun even before the poor guy stated his business is a sign of a different way of thinking between europeans and americans. I think it is sad to live in such a perpetual mistrust. Cheers
I had a friend in college who liked guns. He had a Dirty Harry gun. Not sure what that is but it was big and loud and he kept it under his bed at night. One night his 4 year old brother got up for a bathroom break. My friend who was a little drunk and not asleep yet almost shot his brother in the kitchen!! Scary stuff. I hate guns and hate the attitude on most of the fundamental Christian/ex-military folks I work with which is "Shoot first ask questions later."
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federico.strati wrote:
I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens
You've been listening to too much propoganda BS. No, this isn't typical in the U.S.
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Dave Kreskowiak -
Typically, one would say "hey, I'm here to work on your house" before starting to work on your house. And one would typically do that via the front door (rather than going for some bushes first).
That's what he did, from John's story... He wasn't in the bushes... He came from "behind" the hedges that border his property, which could mean the guy was walking down the street, then walking up the driveway, presumably toward the front door in order to say "Hey, I'm here to work on your house" John's wife just happened to be in the driveway, and saw him before he could introduce himself :)
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
I had a friend in college who liked guns. He had a Dirty Harry gun. Not sure what that is but it was big and loud and he kept it under his bed at night. One night his 4 year old brother got up for a bathroom break. My friend who was a little drunk and not asleep yet almost shot his brother in the kitchen!! Scary stuff. I hate guns and hate the attitude on most of the fundamental Christian/ex-military folks I work with which is "Shoot first ask questions later."
Joe Simes wrote:
He had a Dirty Harry gun. Not sure what that is but it was big and loud and he kept it under his bed at night.
Most guns are loud, and a lot are "big". That's so you can use it as a club if you run out of ammo.
Joe Simes wrote:
One night his 4 year old brother got up for a bathroom break. My friend who was a little drunk and not asleep yet almost shot his brother in the kitchen!!
He has a 4-year-old brother livinng in the same house, but he keeps his gun under his bed? Your friend wasn't anything more than stupid and dangerous. He had no business owning a gun if he wasn't ensuring it was inaccessible by a child. Further, owning a gun pretty much precludes one from the priviledge of being even "a little" drunk.
Joe Simes wrote:
Scary stuff.
In that situation, yes, very scary stuff.
Joe Simes wrote:
and hate the attitude on most of the fundamental Christian/ex-military folks I work with which is "Shoot first ask questions later."
Well, were not christians - fundamental or otherwise - and my wife isn't ex military, and I am ex-Navy ith very little exposure to small arms as a rsult of my service. In fact, until today, she only carried her pistol because *I* insisted that she did. After this morning, her attitude will most certainly have changed. And if someone is properly trained, the "shoot first" concept doesn't even cross their minds. IMHO she did it exactly right. Even though she was startled by the presence on an unknown person with undetermnined intentions, she kept her cool and everybody walked away without any extra holes they weren't born with. It's certainly your right to hate guns, and I applaud you for desire to avoid their use, but me and mine are a bit more pragmatic about the whole thing. We certainly don't want to have to shoot anyone - for any reason - but if it came down to it...
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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That's what he did, from John's story... He wasn't in the bushes... He came from "behind" the hedges that border his property, which could mean the guy was walking down the street, then walking up the driveway, presumably toward the front door in order to say "Hey, I'm here to work on your house" John's wife just happened to be in the driveway, and saw him before he could introduce himself :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Actually, she was standing in the garage, and the guy was coming from behind the hedges, and had started down the driveway without saying a word.
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:39 PM
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Actually, she was standing in the garage, and the guy was coming from behind the hedges, and had started down the driveway without saying a word.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:39 PM
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
and the guy was coming from behind the hedges
Say no more snigger, snigger :)
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We use our garage to go in and out of the house (because it's easier than pulling out and fumbling with the keys necessary to use the front door). My wife leaves for work at around 6:45AM (when it's still dark). This morning, as she was leaving the house, a guy appeared from behind the hedges that border our property, and started walking up our driveway towards my wife. When she saw him, she immediately stuck her hand in her purse, and flipped the safety off on her 9mm pistol, but kept the gun in her hand and in her purse. At the same time, she told the guy to stop where he was. Luckily for him, he did. He claimed that he was the foreman that was going to oversee the repairs to our hail-damaged roof this morning. My wife commanded him to return to his truck and prove the veracity of his claim, and he retreated and returned to the same point in the driveway where he had originally stoppped walking, and he had a clipboard that clearly had a work order with the correct company name on it. She told him to put the clipboard on the driveway, walk backwards to the street, and wait for her to inspect the work order. After verifying that he was who he claimed, she asked him to stay at the foot of the driveway while she got in her car (which was also in the driveway, but closer to the house than the street). As she backed out, she stopped, opened the window a little, and asked the guy why he didn't park in front of the house. It seems he wanted to leave room for the actual work truck that was on the way. I don't know why, but contractors in San Antonio have a real bad habit of either showing up late, or not showing up at all. Being used to that, my wife wasn't expecting the roofers to be at our house at the promised time (7AM), much less 15 minutes early. Oh yeah, the direction he came from was the house where the less-than-savory characters live, and she said the guy looked like a street person. I'm happy to see that my advice/training efforts paid off. It could have ended very badly for the guy, because my wife is a VERY good shot with a pistol.
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work oSo she was expecting someone at 7 am, but 6:45 was suspicious. And what is a foreman supposed to look like, a businessman? He is going on your roof, in December. He even identified himself as the foreman, and was just 15 minutes early. Would a shady character from down the block break into the companies computers, check their schedule, find the first house of the day, then impersonate the foreman 15 minutes prior to the real foreman showing up to commit some crime? It seems like maybe she just needs an excuse to use the 9mm? Tip, if he starts asking about honeybees, fire at will.
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I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens, where it is so simple to buy and own guns... It seems to me that you're fanatical in expecting the worse from everything that happens. Also the way your wife handled the affair by going directly to the gun even before the poor guy stated his business is a sign of a different way of thinking between europeans and americans. I think it is sad to live in such a perpetual mistrust. Cheers
It depends on where you live. Based on John's earlier threads, there are few suspicious/dodgy types in his neighborhood. I'd probably have moved by now, but John and family apparently just like to live there. :~
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I think this is a "normal" story for US citizens, where it is so simple to buy and own guns... It seems to me that you're fanatical in expecting the worse from everything that happens. Also the way your wife handled the affair by going directly to the gun even before the poor guy stated his business is a sign of a different way of thinking between europeans and americans. I think it is sad to live in such a perpetual mistrust. Cheers
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My mum was the chief of police's secretary in a small New Hampshire town and she was also in charge of processing pistol permits. She said you would be horrified to know how many people are actually carrying handguns!
Joe Simes wrote:
She said you would be horrified to know how many people are actually carrying handguns!
Horrified? Really? Since when should law-abiding citizens relinquish their right to self defense simply because it horrifies another citizen? I'm "horrified" that an American would think that their own illusion of discomfort overrides my rights. I have never ONCE heard of a gun owner insisting that everyone else must own a gun to make him/her feel more comfortable. EDIT ---------------- I would defend - to the death - my right to keep/bear arms, as well as your right to not have to. In fact, I've already done my time in defense of your rights - and mine. It would be pointless to give up the fight, and would diminish the efforts by others to make sure we still have rights to fight for.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001modified on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:45 PM
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Yeah, you can - if you're swimming, or you're on fire.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Europe has a fairly recent history of dictators controlling unarmed citizens. And in more recent times, heavily armed syndicates corrupting public offices? You're Italian? Who makes Barreta's?
wizardzz wrote:
Who makes Barreta's?
It's Beretta... :) I don't know who makes Barretas...
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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wizardzz wrote:
Who makes Barreta's?
It's Beretta... :) I don't know who makes Barretas...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Europe has a fairly recent history of dictators controlling unarmed citizens. And in more recent times, heavily armed syndicates corrupting public offices? You're Italian? Who makes Barreta's?
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It depends on where you live. Based on John's earlier threads, there are few suspicious/dodgy types in his neighborhood. I'd probably have moved by now, but John and family apparently just like to live there. :~
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Why should *I* move. When given a choice between fight or flight, I'll pick the first one pretty much every time, especially if I have the tactical advantage, which I pretty much have all the time. It's called prparation and situational awareness.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
The USA has a fairly recent history of dictators controlling armed citizens. And in more recent times, heavily armed syndicates corrupting public offices? You're USian? What's your point?
My point is Hitler and Mussolini would never rise to power and commit the acts they did in to a heavily armed group of citizens, like we proudly have here. My point regarding public office was in regard to your statement: I think it is sad to live in such a perpetual mistrust. We live in a state of mistrust because we are aware and pretty honest about the corruptions in office. I think it's sad that you think it's a sad thing.
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The USA has a fairly recent history of dictators controlling armed citizens. And in more recent times, heavily armed syndicates corrupting public offices? You're USian? What's your point?
harold aptroot wrote:
The USA has a fairly recent history of dictators controlling armed citizens.
I wouldn't call the Brady Campaign a bunch of dictators... The only thing keeping our government from controlling armed citizens is that if they tried, those very same armed citizens would probably rebel, and the government would have a real mess on its hands.
harold aptroot wrote:
And in more recent times, heavily armed syndicates corrupting public offices?
That's always been the case - everywhere.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
