Anyone else thinking that this is a really bad idea?
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Well first, if you used the word useful, then it must be useful :-) Second, the enemy is simply "the other guy", but to the other guy you are the other guy. And finally, a little danger is useful even to the best of us when the time is right. I can't think of a single dangerous thing that hasn't had a good use, can you?
Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No. Useful: serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect Except for "serving some purpose" they are all relative to .. who actually? You have to pick Someone, otherwise you could both argue that nothing has a good effect and that everything has a good effect at the same time, just by playing games with who you use a reference point. The standard reference point for a thing is either yourself or its (potential) owner. If you're talking about anyone else you use a "to" modifier like this: "it is useful to someone else" Duh! Why did this bullshit even come up? It's more of a backroom thing.
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Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No. Useful: serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect Except for "serving some purpose" they are all relative to .. who actually? You have to pick Someone, otherwise you could both argue that nothing has a good effect and that everything has a good effect at the same time, just by playing games with who you use a reference point. The standard reference point for a thing is either yourself or its (potential) owner. If you're talking about anyone else you use a "to" modifier like this: "it is useful to someone else" Duh! Why did this bullshit even come up? It's more of a backroom thing.
harold aptroot wrote:
Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No.
Many times in history this has happened, for example when spies or soldiers are captured and... "interrogated" before being executed. Cyanide capsules hidden in the mouth was one way. Suicide bombers also find this sort of thing very useful. And then, of course, it would be handy if we could use killswitches on enemy soldiers.
harold aptroot wrote:
Why did this bullsh*t even come up?
I don't know, but it seems very important to you. :-)
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harold aptroot wrote:
Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No.
Many times in history this has happened, for example when spies or soldiers are captured and... "interrogated" before being executed. Cyanide capsules hidden in the mouth was one way. Suicide bombers also find this sort of thing very useful. And then, of course, it would be handy if we could use killswitches on enemy soldiers.
harold aptroot wrote:
Why did this bullsh*t even come up?
I don't know, but it seems very important to you. :-)
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Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No. Useful: serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect Except for "serving some purpose" they are all relative to .. who actually? You have to pick Someone, otherwise you could both argue that nothing has a good effect and that everything has a good effect at the same time, just by playing games with who you use a reference point. The standard reference point for a thing is either yourself or its (potential) owner. If you're talking about anyone else you use a "to" modifier like this: "it is useful to someone else" Duh! Why did this bullshit even come up? It's more of a backroom thing.
harold aptroot wrote:
Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No. Useful: serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect
Suppose they decide to organise a coup d'état?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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harold aptroot wrote:
It's both useless and dangerous.
It's impossible for something to be both.
A useless Fire Alarm is dangerous. When there is a fire, that is. The rest of the time its ............ errrr useless.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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harold aptroot wrote:
Ok, imagine this: Person1 - hey let's equip all out soldiers with a remote-controlled killswitches! Person2 - yea that'll definitely be useful! No. Useful: serving some purpose; advantageous, helpful, or of good effect
Suppose they decide to organise a coup d'état?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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How would I know? Do I look like a subversive anti-government traitor? Who are you, the secret police? :laugh:
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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How would I know? Do I look like a subversive anti-government traitor? Who are you, the secret police? :laugh:
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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What can receive a signal can transmit a signal. Every computer with this chip installed can be tracked. The commands executed by the chip can be tracked, meaning that whoever is at the other end of the 4G connection will know exactly what you are doing: what applications you run, the data you process, the websites you visit, the movies you watch. Bad idea? Hell yes. With the US government becoming more paranoid and more intrusive every month, I would never, EVER get a computer whose process has that kind of stuff built in.
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Not if I'm put in charge of the button. Otherwise, yes.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't even trust myself with that one. Just imagine me, slapping for the alarm clock...
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have a remote kill switch See here: http://www.techspot.com/news/41643-intels-sandy-bridge-processors-have-a-remote-kill-switch.html[^]
Go and never darken my towels again - Groucho Marx
Oh bloody great. Hackers are going to have so much fun with that! Ah the days of the 8086.:thumbsup:
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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I wouldn't even trust myself with that one. Just imagine me, slapping for the alarm clock...
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchypeterchen wrote:
Just imagine me, slapping for the alarm clock...
Never use one. I have an alarm bladder instead and I never slap anything connected with that. Well, maybe occasionally. :-O
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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peterchen wrote:
Just imagine me, slapping for the alarm clock...
Never use one. I have an alarm bladder instead and I never slap anything connected with that. Well, maybe occasionally. :-O
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
:laugh: :laugh:
Go and never darken my towels again - Groucho Marx
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We could always start a petition to start remaking the 8086? :laugh:
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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We could always start a petition to start remaking the 8086? :laugh:
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob! "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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Gregory.Gadow wrote:
What can receive a signal can transmit a signal
The radio on my desk can't.
Gregory.Gadow wrote:
With the US government becoming more paranoid
It seems they are not the only ones... :)
I look at the PATRIOT Act, documented efforts by the government to monitor the books a person buys or checks out of a library, admitted violations of the Fourth Amendment protections through warrantless wiretaps, monitoring of email and at airports being permitted by the courts "in the name of on-going national security", the documented fact that Norton and Symantec have backdoors written into their software so that government worms can be installed secretly and without raising alarms... is paranoia unjustified? And "can" does not necessarily mean "will." I have no interest in finding out the hard way, however.
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harold aptroot wrote:
I will now spend my time more usefully on WoW
There ya go!
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A useless Fire Alarm is dangerous. When there is a fire, that is. The rest of the time its ............ errrr useless.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Hey that would be a pretty good way to stage a coup. Convince someone the fire alarms are working when they're not, then start a fire.
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Intel's Sandy Bridge processors have a remote kill switch See here: http://www.techspot.com/news/41643-intels-sandy-bridge-processors-have-a-remote-kill-switch.html[^]
Go and never darken my towels again - Groucho Marx
This really sounds like something that should be built into TPM[^] instead. All the paranoid corporate types would get it by default and the rest of us would have nothing to worry about. That said, if I'm reading the article correctly and it needs 3g in the computer to work, unless you buy a computer with a modem built in, instead of tethering to your phone you won't have anything to worry about.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I look at the PATRIOT Act, documented efforts by the government to monitor the books a person buys or checks out of a library, admitted violations of the Fourth Amendment protections through warrantless wiretaps, monitoring of email and at airports being permitted by the courts "in the name of on-going national security", the documented fact that Norton and Symantec have backdoors written into their software so that government worms can be installed secretly and without raising alarms... is paranoia unjustified? And "can" does not necessarily mean "will." I have no interest in finding out the hard way, however.
I actually agree with you. The government (here in the US) has gone way too far in eroding individual's freedoms and right to privacy. I don't believe this new feature from Intel has anything to do with it though. Paranoia is healthy, but in small doses! (I can just imagine someone looking at my CPU logs and seeing how much time I spend on CP!)
