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  • R Rob Philpott

    Electron Shepherd wrote:

    But that's not a justification for using camel case.

    It absolutely is. Having a standard, even if its not very good is far better than everyone going off and doing their own thing. I never claimed camel case to be a good idea but it is the convention in the example given. Its a bit like suggesting you spell words the way they sound rather than the way they're spelled because it makes more sense.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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    Electron Shepherd
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    Rob Philpott wrote:

    But that's not a justification for using camel case

    Rob Philpott wrote:

    It absolutely is.

    No, it's a justification for using a standard. It's not a justifcation for selecting camel case as that standard. Your point about "You can tell at a glance what you're dealing with (local/member/property etc). And if we all do things the same way it makes it easier to understand each other's code." are entirely valid, and I agree with them, but they apply just as much to Hungarian notation as camel case.

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    • N Nish Nishant

      :laugh: -

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      Single Step Debugger
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      I know you have a nice sense of humor, that’s why I allow myself a crude jokes sometimes. :)

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      • E Electron Shepherd

        Rob Philpott wrote:

        But that's not a justification for using camel case

        Rob Philpott wrote:

        It absolutely is.

        No, it's a justification for using a standard. It's not a justifcation for selecting camel case as that standard. Your point about "You can tell at a glance what you're dealing with (local/member/property etc). And if we all do things the same way it makes it easier to understand each other's code." are entirely valid, and I agree with them, but they apply just as much to Hungarian notation as camel case.

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        Rob Philpott
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        Electron Shepherd wrote:

        But that's not a justification for using camel case

        Electron Shepherd wrote:

        It absolutely is.

        Electron Shepherd wrote:

        No, it's a justification for using a standard.

        Uh-huh. Ok it's not a justification for using camel case for its own merit, its justification for using camel case because that is the standard. Better?

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          I know you have a nice sense of humor, that’s why I allow myself a crude jokes sometimes. :)

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          Nish Nishant
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          Go ahead, we are all crude people here, so the cruder the humor, the funnier it is for all of us :)

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          • R Rob Philpott

            Electron Shepherd wrote:

            But that's not a justification for using camel case

            Electron Shepherd wrote:

            It absolutely is.

            Electron Shepherd wrote:

            No, it's a justification for using a standard.

            Uh-huh. Ok it's not a justification for using camel case for its own merit, its justification for using camel case because that is the standard. Better?

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            Electron Shepherd
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            Not really. It still doesn't explain why it's the standard in the first place. That's what I'm trying to userstand. Lots of people use camel case as a naming standard, but no-one seems able to say why it's better than the others. So, if you were tasked with developing a set of coding standards, and you decided to use camel case for variables, would you be explain to someone the benefits of that over an MFC-style str... or C-style lpsz... convention?

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            • E Electron Shepherd

              Not really. It still doesn't explain why it's the standard in the first place. That's what I'm trying to userstand. Lots of people use camel case as a naming standard, but no-one seems able to say why it's better than the others. So, if you were tasked with developing a set of coding standards, and you decided to use camel case for variables, would you be explain to someone the benefits of that over an MFC-style str... or C-style lpsz... convention?

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              Rob Philpott
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              Dude, I've told you I don't know why it's the standard, probably because they nicked it from Java at a guess. Standards aren't always designed, sometimes they just get adopted and evolve despite being imperfect. Who knows? I would expect Hungarian got dropped due to the better Intellisense handling in Visual Studio at its mainstay 'p_' no longer holding any worth. In short its benefits got outweighed by its clumsiness.

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              • R Rob Philpott

                Dude, I've told you I don't know why it's the standard, probably because they nicked it from Java at a guess. Standards aren't always designed, sometimes they just get adopted and evolve despite being imperfect. Who knows? I would expect Hungarian got dropped due to the better Intellisense handling in Visual Studio at its mainstay 'p_' no longer holding any worth. In short its benefits got outweighed by its clumsiness.

                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                Electron Shepherd
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                Rob Philpott wrote:

                I don't know why it's the standard

                I'm not asking why it's the standard where you are. You seem to like it as a naming convention. What I'm asking is why you like it. Why do you think it's better than the others? I may have misinterpreted your opinion of course. You may dislike it as much as I do...

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                • E Electron Shepherd

                  Rob Philpott wrote:

                  I don't know why it's the standard

                  I'm not asking why it's the standard where you are. You seem to like it as a naming convention. What I'm asking is why you like it. Why do you think it's better than the others? I may have misinterpreted your opinion of course. You may dislike it as much as I do...

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                  Rob Philpott
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                  Actually, it's not something I feel deeply passionate about. Kind of indifferent to it as a choice, kind of like it because it is a standard and I can, for instance, tell what's a type (Pascal) and what's a variable (Camel) at a glance. Thank God, it's time to go to the pub now (almost)...

                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                  • W wizardzz

                    I started to check out StyleCop this morning. I'm not going to rant about every other rule it follows, but has anyone noticed that the file **.Designer.cs violates:

                    SA1201: All methods must be placed after all fields.

                    Windows creates this file. I think I'm done with StyleCop.

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    I don't like style cop unless I am offshoring unthinking work to unthinking developers. True software is written by creative professionals. If I wanted to be micromanaged I would work in a call center.

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      No, FxCop and StyleCop are different. StyleCop analyzes your source code, whereas FxCop does static analysis on your compiled assembly. Normally you are supposed to use them together, so they complement each other.

                      Regards, Nish


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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      They complement each other, but they certainly don't compliment you. BTW - they work really well in combination with NDepend.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        They complement each other, but they certainly don't compliment you. BTW - they work really well in combination with NDepend.

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        BTW - they work really well in combination with NDepend.

                        Interesting. Never used NDepend myself though.

                        Regards, Nish


                        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                        • W wizardzz

                          I started to check out StyleCop this morning. I'm not going to rant about every other rule it follows, but has anyone noticed that the file **.Designer.cs violates:

                          SA1201: All methods must be placed after all fields.

                          Windows creates this file. I think I'm done with StyleCop.

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          So? Edit it. Big fat hairy deal. I delete mine and put that crap in the main file like VS 2002 and 2003 do. Just because I can. :-D

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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            me too. which is why i think LINQ is crap.

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            I find LINQ quite readable in most cases.

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