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    The_Real_Chubaka
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    Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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      Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Make sure the company is a distinct entity, that way if it goes to shit you don't have to go down with it. Also, if you don't have the funding for it, get some funding or don't start it. I have a friend who works for a startup that can't pay him... it's not a good situation for anybody involved.

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        Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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        Luc Pattyn
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        This Jedi[^] wrote a series of articles on starting a business; they are a must-read. And we have a "Running a business" forum, which isn't very active. The bottom line is, technical content is but a small fraction of any business. :)

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          Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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          Pualee
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          If you want to do research, why not become a professor at a university? I'm only half way serious (I know nothing about it), but you will have free labor (doctorial/thesis candidates) and can make some money on the side publishing your work, doing speaches, etc. You will also be paid and so not have to hemorage money to start a business, find financers, market yourself, or do anything else other than technical research and publish your results. Do you want to start your business to be rich, or do do your research?

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          • T The_Real_Chubaka

            Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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            hervebags wrote:

            I really need advises or any kind of help

            My advice is to stop now and consider what you want to do and how you're going to get there. Starting a business requires one thing at the outset: a business plan, including a marketing plan and cash flow projection. By going through the process of creating that document you will find out: 1) How much equipment, software, people etc. you'll need to make a go of it. 2) How much cash you'll need to startup and keep going while you're looking for customers. 3) Whether or not it is likely you can make a go of it. If you create this document using realistic numbers and expectations, you may very well find you cannot make a go if it. If that's the case you will have saved yourself a lot of time, money and stress. You may also find that you can't make a go of it as originally planned, but that you can change a few things to make it viable. If your business plan shows you can make a go of it, you'll have a document you can take to family/friends for initial financing, then the bank or venture capital firms for extended financing if necessary. I went through this process 9 years ago and found that I needed $40,000 in the bank before I even started. That gave me just enough to buy the equipment and software I needed and to prop up my cash flow long enough for me to develop the business contacts and paying customers I needed to move forward. Believe me, $40k is not a lot of money when it comes to starting a business. Hope this helps. Cheers, Drew.

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              Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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              realJSOP
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              Confucius says, what the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Confucius says, what the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                Is it something like the difference between giving a shit and taking the shit?

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                  Confucius says, what the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party? ;P

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                  Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                    Make sure the company is a distinct entity, that way if it goes to shit you don't have to go down with it. Also, if you don't have the funding for it, get some funding or don't start it. I have a friend who works for a startup that can't pay him... it's not a good situation for anybody involved.

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                    The_Real_Chubaka
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                    Thanks aspdotnetdev. Making sure the company is a distinct entity is a very good advice :)

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                    • T The_Real_Chubaka

                      Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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                      No offence but you need from a common sense. Starting a company without some initial capital is like planning to have a sex without having a girlfriend.

                      There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        Hi, I have mad up my mind. I am starting a business. One of the problems is that i think i know what i am doing, but i might be wrong. I have been writing C, C++, python and MATLAB code for a long time now. My expertise are 'computer vision' (object recognition)and 'Data mining'. I have been teaching myself at home and am now at a point where i think i can use everything i have learned to make some money so i can start a company and hire other researchers in the field of computer vision. The other problem is that, in my bank account, i only have enough money for my bills :( I have started to design a website which will be ready in less than two weeks. I really need advises or any kind of help :)

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                        I actually got my degree in Management, specializing in Entrepreneurship. The CS courses at my University were a bore, and I had a riff with the department. I've started a few businesses, each unsuccessful or moderately successful. Here is my $0.02: It worries me that you have a plan to make some money and hire people. The only capital you can contribute at this time is sweat equity, your own skill and time, so use it to create something. You are avoiding some of the most important benefits of starting a software company: you are a virtual company. If you have the ability to write the code or create a marketable product on your own, you might need just one other person for admin duties to start a company. Look into the idea of bootstrapping as it relates to entrepreneurship, remember HP was started by 2 guys in a garage making an improvement on one niche product (audio oscilloscope). If you really need some outside coders, find people that would like to go in 50-50 investing their sweat equity as well for ownership rights. Some people, like myself, are willing to invest time outside of our day jobs, without pay, to get ownership at ground level. Some other financial tips: Don't plan on operating profitably for a couple of years. Even in good times, it may be a while before you can pay yourself, or any lenders off. I would avoid family and friends for seeding money, unless they can stand to lose the money, a failed business venture is not worth a ruined relationship. I'm working as hard as I can to save up the money for my next venture, and don't plan on any outside seeding. It's a good idea to start the company when you have a nice bank account or other form of cash flow. I just closed my bank account of a failed business yesterday. Am I sad? No. I didn't invest a lot of capital so my loss was just time. Also, it taught me a lot and I know things will go better next time around. I want to write a book on this now.

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                          now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party? ;P

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                          Luc Pattyn wrote:

                          now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party?

                          See?

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                            now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party? ;P

                            Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                            Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                            The Superior Men™ are allowed to quote other Superior Man™. :-D

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                              This Jedi[^] wrote a series of articles on starting a business; they are a must-read. And we have a "Running a business" forum, which isn't very active. The bottom line is, technical content is but a small fraction of any business. :)

                              Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                              Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                              The_Real_Chubaka
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                              Thanks Luc Pattyn. Those articles are must read indeed

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                                No offence but you need from a common sense. Starting a company without some initial capital is like planning to have a sex without having a girlfriend.

                                There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                True, if you have a wife, you shouldn't plan on having sex.

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                                  now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party? ;P

                                  Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                  now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party?

                                  JSOP has been known to refer to himself as Confucius in the past.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                    True, if you have a wife, you shouldn't plan on having sex.

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                                    Tell me about it. When my little girl is big enough to ask me a “questions” I will have forgotten the answers. :-D

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                                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                      now why do you feel a sudden need to quote a third party?

                                      JSOP has been known to refer to himself as Confucius in the past.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                      And Chuck Norris has been know to refer to himself as JSOP...

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        And Chuck Norris has been know to refer to himself as JSOP...

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        Modesty isn't his biggest quality then. :)

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                                          If you want to do research, why not become a professor at a university? I'm only half way serious (I know nothing about it), but you will have free labor (doctorial/thesis candidates) and can make some money on the side publishing your work, doing speaches, etc. You will also be paid and so not have to hemorage money to start a business, find financers, market yourself, or do anything else other than technical research and publish your results. Do you want to start your business to be rich, or do do your research?

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                                          The_Real_Chubaka
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                                          I want to have my own company and see that company grow. I cannot do that in a university

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