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    Thousands of dead turtle doves, many of which had a "strange" blue stain inside their beaks, have crashed from the sky in Italy. Italy's dead doves come not long after 2 million dead fish washed ashore along Maryland's Chesapeake Bay -- and just days after up to 5,000 blackbirds fell out of the sky in a one-mile area near Beebe, Ark., and thousands of drum fish turned up dead along a stretch of an Arkansas river. Other animal die-offs in the past two weeks include reports of 40,000 dead crabs washing ashore near Kent, England, hundreds of snapper fish dead in New Zealand, 150 tons of red tilapia dead in Vietnam, 500 jackdaws crashing to their death in Sweden, more than 450 birds falling onto a Louisiana highway and a mass of dead fish in a Florida creek. We are assured that this is just a coincidence by Those Who Know Better. Personally, I'm waiting for rivers of blood before I panic.

    "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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      Thousands of dead turtle doves, many of which had a "strange" blue stain inside their beaks, have crashed from the sky in Italy. Italy's dead doves come not long after 2 million dead fish washed ashore along Maryland's Chesapeake Bay -- and just days after up to 5,000 blackbirds fell out of the sky in a one-mile area near Beebe, Ark., and thousands of drum fish turned up dead along a stretch of an Arkansas river. Other animal die-offs in the past two weeks include reports of 40,000 dead crabs washing ashore near Kent, England, hundreds of snapper fish dead in New Zealand, 150 tons of red tilapia dead in Vietnam, 500 jackdaws crashing to their death in Sweden, more than 450 birds falling onto a Louisiana highway and a mass of dead fish in a Florida creek. We are assured that this is just a coincidence by Those Who Know Better. Personally, I'm waiting for rivers of blood before I panic.

      "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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      Sure would be funny if it turned out to be carbon dioxide poisoning :-D (Yes, that was a joke) Or maybe it's like... What movie was that, with the magnetic fields getting all screwy... Oh yeah, The Core. Remember the beginning of that one, where they had tons of birds crashing into buildings because they could no longer orient on the EM field? Granted, I think if the EM field croaked so suddenly, people would have noticed.

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        Sure would be funny if it turned out to be carbon dioxide poisoning :-D (Yes, that was a joke) Or maybe it's like... What movie was that, with the magnetic fields getting all screwy... Oh yeah, The Core. Remember the beginning of that one, where they had tons of birds crashing into buildings because they could no longer orient on the EM field? Granted, I think if the EM field croaked so suddenly, people would have noticed.

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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Sure would be funny if it turned out to be carbon dioxide poisoning

        LOL. Oh, yeah. :laugh: I think it is due to sunspot activity. :cool:

        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          Sure would be funny if it turned out to be carbon dioxide poisoning

          LOL. Oh, yeah. :laugh: I think it is due to sunspot activity. :cool:

          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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          Chris Meech wrote:

          I think it is due to sunspot activity.

          Fluoride in the water, surely

          "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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            Chris Meech wrote:

            I think it is due to sunspot activity.

            Fluoride in the water, surely

            "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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            It's gotta be genital warts

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              It's gotta be genital warts

              :)

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              Flouride in the genital warts?

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                Thousands of dead turtle doves, many of which had a "strange" blue stain inside their beaks, have crashed from the sky in Italy. Italy's dead doves come not long after 2 million dead fish washed ashore along Maryland's Chesapeake Bay -- and just days after up to 5,000 blackbirds fell out of the sky in a one-mile area near Beebe, Ark., and thousands of drum fish turned up dead along a stretch of an Arkansas river. Other animal die-offs in the past two weeks include reports of 40,000 dead crabs washing ashore near Kent, England, hundreds of snapper fish dead in New Zealand, 150 tons of red tilapia dead in Vietnam, 500 jackdaws crashing to their death in Sweden, more than 450 birds falling onto a Louisiana highway and a mass of dead fish in a Florida creek. We are assured that this is just a coincidence by Those Who Know Better. Personally, I'm waiting for rivers of blood before I panic.

                "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth. I have observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." ~ Benj Franklin

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                I havent voted you down. But I ought to. Do you really believe in a sky pixie and his mad as hatter followers? Oh look. A line in a book written by goatherds two thousand years ago has a possible similarity to something that is completely explainable so it must be a sign that a big fat sky pixie exists!

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                  I havent voted you down. But I ought to. Do you really believe in a sky pixie and his mad as hatter followers? Oh look. A line in a book written by goatherds two thousand years ago has a possible similarity to something that is completely explainable so it must be a sign that a big fat sky pixie exists!

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  I havent voted you down.

                  This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.

                  “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    I havent voted you down.

                    This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.

                    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                    That was a well thought out rebuke. 5

                    :)

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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      I havent voted you down.

                      This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.

                      “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                      I see you suffer from that rare condition, wisdom! Respect is more important than religion. Well said sir.

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        I havent voted you down.

                        This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.

                        “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                        Life of Brian anyone? I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that. It was a none issue because they didn't see anything to make fun of.

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                          I havent voted you down. But I ought to. Do you really believe in a sky pixie and his mad as hatter followers? Oh look. A line in a book written by goatherds two thousand years ago has a possible similarity to something that is completely explainable so it must be a sign that a big fat sky pixie exists!

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                          Ooohhhhh, watch it mr David Cutler, councillor of Luton or some such. Comments like these would be snapped up by the local press! ;) Thats the trouble of making yourself important, and thinking you can rule other people. You force yoursle fot conform to blandness. Your choice! :laugh:

                          "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            I havent voted you down.

                            This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.

                            “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions

                            Bhudism is pretty good. Anyway, got any links to those dead animals and any research on why they might have diead and if such deaths are unusual?

                            "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                              Ooohhhhh, watch it mr David Cutler, councillor of Luton or some such. Comments like these would be snapped up by the local press! ;) Thats the trouble of making yourself important, and thinking you can rule other people. You force yoursle fot conform to blandness. Your choice! :laugh:

                              "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                              These are my views, and I hold to them. Or do you not respect my right to hold them?

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                                These are my views, and I hold to them. Or do you not respect my right to hold them?

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                These are my views, and I hold to them. Or do you not respect my right to hold them?

                                Its not up to me to ay so, its up to the voters! :laugh:

                                "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                                  That was a well thought out rebuke. 5

                                  :)

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                                  With respect, I wasn't rebuking anyone. Dave goes over the top sometimes and so do I. We all have hot button issues, too.

                                  “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                    Life of Brian anyone? I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that. It was a none issue because they didn't see anything to make fun of.

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                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that.

                                    Huh? The entire story is a satire of the life of Yeshua.

                                    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                      Trollslayer wrote:

                                      I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that.

                                      Huh? The entire story is a satire of the life of Yeshua.

                                      “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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                                      No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).

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                                        No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).

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                                        Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

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                                          No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).

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                                          Trollslayer wrote:

                                          It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends.

                                          I think it was an attempt to mock Christianity without mocking Jeshua - of course, we may be saying the same thing in different words. But I've always felt that what happened was they didn't have the courage of their comedic convictions. After all, the original title was "Jesus Christ - Lust for Glory." Had they substituted "Jesus" in the released title and throughout the movie for "Brian," (in other words do exactly what they did do with King Arthur) they might have not gotten the film released - or gotten it banned in more places than it was anyway. Yet all they would have needed to do was change the name that way, and eliminate the scene you mention which I believe was added in to prove that they really, honest, weren't talking about the other Messiah.

                                          “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken

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