Its beginning to look a lot like Exodus
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I havent voted you down.
This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.
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Oakman wrote:
I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions
Bhudism is pretty good. Anyway, got any links to those dead animals and any research on why they might have diead and if such deaths are unusual?
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Ooohhhhh, watch it mr David Cutler, councillor of Luton or some such. Comments like these would be snapped up by the local press! ;) Thats the trouble of making yourself important, and thinking you can rule other people. You force yoursle fot conform to blandness. Your choice! :laugh:
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Dalek Dave wrote:
These are my views, and I hold to them. Or do you not respect my right to hold them?
Its not up to me to ay so, its up to the voters! :laugh:
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With respect, I wasn't rebuking anyone. Dave goes over the top sometimes and so do I. We all have hot button issues, too.
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Life of Brian anyone? I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that. It was a none issue because they didn't see anything to make fun of.
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Trollslayer wrote:
I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that.
Huh? The entire story is a satire of the life of Yeshua.
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Trollslayer wrote:
I notice they didn't make fun of Jesus in that.
Huh? The entire story is a satire of the life of Yeshua.
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No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).
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No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).
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Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
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No, it was set in that time. It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends. This is why the only scene with Jesus is at the Sermon on the mount and he is in the background and some a***hole starts telling everyone what he meant (blessed are the cheesemakers etc.).
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Trollslayer wrote:
It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends.
I think it was an attempt to mock Christianity without mocking Jeshua - of course, we may be saying the same thing in different words. But I've always felt that what happened was they didn't have the courage of their comedic convictions. After all, the original title was "Jesus Christ - Lust for Glory." Had they substituted "Jesus" in the released title and throughout the movie for "Brian," (in other words do exactly what they did do with King Arthur) they might have not gotten the film released - or gotten it banned in more places than it was anyway. Yet all they would have needed to do was change the name that way, and eliminate the scene you mention which I believe was added in to prove that they really, honest, weren't talking about the other Messiah.
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Trollslayer wrote:
It was about the people who exploited him for their own ends.
I think it was an attempt to mock Christianity without mocking Jeshua - of course, we may be saying the same thing in different words. But I've always felt that what happened was they didn't have the courage of their comedic convictions. After all, the original title was "Jesus Christ - Lust for Glory." Had they substituted "Jesus" in the released title and throughout the movie for "Brian," (in other words do exactly what they did do with King Arthur) they might have not gotten the film released - or gotten it banned in more places than it was anyway. Yet all they would have needed to do was change the name that way, and eliminate the scene you mention which I believe was added in to prove that they really, honest, weren't talking about the other Messiah.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
I think the difference between religion (is in an institution) and faith is the core. Certainly that is what came over in a couple of interviews plus they had someone doing a good Ian Paisley impression - he was one of the most evil people who ever lived. :mad:
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I think the difference between religion (is in an institution) and faith is the core. Certainly that is what came over in a couple of interviews plus they had someone doing a good Ian Paisley impression - he was one of the most evil people who ever lived. :mad:
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Paisley, like many priests, confuses his particular neuroses with god-given commandments to ensure that nothing in the world is allowed to offend him. Not content with believing, and announcing at regular intervals, that all who disagree with him or question his selection as a mouthpiece for a supreme being are damned to eternal torment. he has to attempt to turn their present into a hellish existence as well.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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Paisley, like many priests, confuses his particular neuroses with god-given commandments to ensure that nothing in the world is allowed to offend him. Not content with believing, and announcing at regular intervals, that all who disagree with him or question his selection as a mouthpiece for a supreme being are damned to eternal torment. he has to attempt to turn their present into a hellish existence as well.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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He was far worse than that - he would stir up hatred and voilence and then when someone was killed stand back and say it wasn't his fault.
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Trollslayer wrote:
He was far worse than that - he would stir up hatred and voilence and then when someone was killed stand back and say it wasn't his fault.
Standard practice for most soi-disant leaders these days, isn't it? First define a group that is different - Jews, Catholics, Homosexuals, Muslims, Bankers, VB programmers - and make sure you give them a derogatory name that limits any perception of humanity. Then promulgate stories about all the evils that they have done and are planning to do at this very moment (make sure to include molestation of children), and finally ask, "is there no-one with the courage and strength to stand up against these creatures?" Later you can explain that your rhetoric was never meant to suggest anything but debating your opponents in open forums. Until and unless you gain the kind of power that will let you stage die Kristallnacht, of course. Some of our world leaders are more subtle than this I suppose, and some are less. But I suspect that David Cameron and Barack Obama would quickly assent to the concept that you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, and that the needs of the many outweigh the freedom of the few. (It is, of course, up to them to decide who is cooking eggs and which needs are paramount.)
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Flouride in the genital warts?
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Either way it must be a government conspiracy.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I havent voted you down.
This would not be a novel experience for me, though perhaps not with you as my dance partner. ;) I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions, and it has been a long long time since I sought any. On the other hand, I know a lot of admirable, honest people who are devout members of one church or another and I have never seen any reason to go around upsetting them by treating something they care about very much with the same respect I would have them show towards me and mine. (At the same time, the little fundies who run around, spouting off their particular brand of narcissism and acting as if they (and their flea-bitten, louse-biting priests) have a pipeline to whatever name they want to call the god they created in their own image, often end up being really pissed off at me since I have read the bible from cover to cover and studied portions of it. (Good idea to know what you are rejecting before rejecting it, n'est-ce pas?) In other words, religionists who don't try to act as if they are superior to me and mine are accorded a modicum of respect in return. Atheists who don't try to act as if they are smarter than me and mine are also accorded a modicum of respect. My rejection of organized religion is based on a firm conviction that if there is a being so superior as to be able to create the universe as we know it, HeSheIt is so far removed from our ability to understand HeSheIt as to make it a waste of time to wonder what actions I might perform that would be either pleasing or upsetting to such an exalted being. Microbes should not concern themselves with the likes and dislikes of Blue Giant Stars. However, I do not reject myths as being either meaningless or uninteresting. Indeed I see them as mankind's first fumbling attempt to connect cause and effect and ultimately the Socratic and scientific methods. Exodus, as a myth, as a legend, contributes a little bit to my understanding of the human condition, as do the stories of King Arthur, Johnny Appleseed, and Dr. Who.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
+5 because you have earned many respect points from me for this post. I have a feeling we are more alike than either of us would like to admit...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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+5 because you have earned many respect points from me for this post. I have a feeling we are more alike than either of us would like to admit...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
Marcus Kramer wrote:
I have a feeling we are more alike than either of us would like to admit...
Yeah, but you're much nicer.
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Oakman wrote:
I cannot find much literal truth in any of the religions
Bhudism is pretty good. Anyway, got any links to those dead animals and any research on why they might have diead and if such deaths are unusual?
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fat_boy wrote:
Bhudism is pretty good.
Especially if you like setting yourself on fire ;) This Link[^] covers most the the more recent and has its own links to those more than a day or two old. The Daily Mail has lots of pictures of it[^]
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Either way it must be a government conspiracy.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
You may have attracted my stalker. . .Let that be a lesson to you.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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You may have attracted my stalker. . .Let that be a lesson to you.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
I have a few of my own already, but I'll let you take credit for this this stalker... :)
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Marcus Kramer wrote:
I have a feeling we are more alike than either of us would like to admit...
Yeah, but you're much nicer.
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That just because I'm Canadian... :)
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That just because I'm Canadian... :)
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Marcus Kramer wrote:
That just because I'm Canadian
Then nice is in your DNA
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