Wall of water
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
I'm in Brisbane as well. I think if you are not already involved in some sort of emergency services work, then donating to the SES or similar is the way to go. My plan is to stay out of the way and not do anything stupid (like swim/cannoe in flooded storm drains or creeks!). Once everything is over, I will see what I can do to help. Til then, I will let the guys who are trained do the heavy lifting.
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
He said the couple had time only to lift their daughter, 15, and their son, 20, up a manhole in the ceiling to safety before the raging water sucked them out of their house and swept them away
That is tragic. For those who want to donate: http://www.qld.gov.au/floods/donate.html[^] Salvation Army[^] NAB[^]
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He said the couple had time only to lift their daughter, 15, and their son, 20, up a manhole in the ceiling to safety before the raging water sucked them out of their house and swept them away
That is tragic. For those who want to donate: http://www.qld.gov.au/floods/donate.html[^] Salvation Army[^] NAB[^]
Thanks! :thumbsup:
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
GlobX wrote:
Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
Did anyone figure where the Haiti money went yet? People got such short memory.
Wout
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
My company just donated $100,000 to the appeal - I personally wish it had gone straight to the SES as the cynic in me sees people with million dollar homes queuing up for a handout because their water feature broke.
___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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GlobX wrote:
Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
Did anyone figure where the Haiti money went yet? People got such short memory.
Wout
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All the money went poof. That's what happens usually. Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries. So if you want to do something, you need to do it yourself instead of handing over cash and trusting some good will be done with it.
Wout
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I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. Toowoomba is basically just up the road. This is what has happened in the last 24 hours.[^] They're describing it more as a wall of water than a flood. This has doubled the death toll for these Australian floods in one 24 hour period, and apparently 70+ people are missing. If anybody has family and friends there, I sincerely hope they are safe. I'm considering donating either my time or my money (what little I have :sigh: ) to the flood victims/cleanup effort. Does anyone know how I can do this or should I just donate to the SES?
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All the money went poof. That's what happens usually. Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries. So if you want to do something, you need to do it yourself instead of handing over cash and trusting some good will be done with it.
Wout
Yes there are bad charities out there, but there are also a huge number of excellent non profit organizations that provide aid to people around the world. The foundation I work for funds a number of them, and I can assure you that money is not wasted.
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All the money went poof. That's what happens usually. Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries. So if you want to do something, you need to do it yourself instead of handing over cash and trusting some good will be done with it.
Wout
wout de zeeuw wrote:
Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries.
I would be very interested to read that, as I used to be pretty active with the One campaign. Do you have a link? I am curious what that donations for One are supposed to be for. It seems to me that the One organization is mostly about getting other organizations/governments to donate and provide support rather than actually accepting donations themselves. For example, they focused at one point on getting some country (the US?) to put more funding towards something (AIDS fund?). So they were not actually donating anything themselves, but they were applying political pressure with signatures and such to get a government to donate more. If that is the case, then I would expect 100% of donations sent to One itself to go toward salaries.
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wout de zeeuw wrote:
Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries.
I would be very interested to read that, as I used to be pretty active with the One campaign. Do you have a link? I am curious what that donations for One are supposed to be for. It seems to me that the One organization is mostly about getting other organizations/governments to donate and provide support rather than actually accepting donations themselves. For example, they focused at one point on getting some country (the US?) to put more funding towards something (AIDS fund?). So they were not actually donating anything themselves, but they were applying political pressure with signatures and such to get a government to donate more. If that is the case, then I would expect 100% of donations sent to One itself to go toward salaries.
Google for "bono one 1.2%". Well, they are 50 people or something, with 50 people you can actually DO a whole lot. So simply put they are trying to make other people do something. Waste of 50 people if you ask me.
Wout
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Google for "bono one 1.2%". Well, they are 50 people or something, with 50 people you can actually DO a whole lot. So simply put they are trying to make other people do something. Waste of 50 people if you ask me.
Wout
I found the article here. Apparently there are 120 employees, and apparently £5.1 million went to pay their salaries (or, about £42,500 per person). Sounds pretty reasonable as far as salaries go.
Article states:
the money is used for promoting its campaign and raising awareness rather than being given straight to those who need help
Article states:
We don't provide programmes on the ground. We're an advocacy and campaigning organisation
So, yeah, I'd expect 100% to go to salaries. And believe me, 120 people is nothing compared to the nearly 7 billion people on this planet (1:58,000,000 ratio). A great deal of those 7 billion people have AIDS, are in poverty, or are facing some other form of abject existence and could use the help of the rest of us. The greatest impact those 120 people can have is by enlisting the help of others rather than trying to build the pyramids themselves. ONE has never tried to hide its purpose... it's doing exactly what it should be doing with the money it's been given.
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Scary stuff. How are you guys in Brisbane? Is Brisbane relatively safe from the floods or are they heading that way? I guess it depends on the suburb you are in as well.
Heading this way. The river-side parts of the CBD have been evacuated, the central part of the CBD is being evacuated presently and I am about to be too. Here's a cross section of Brisbane with may awesome art skills (CBD on right):
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Evac River Evac Evac(now) Me -
Heading this way. The river-side parts of the CBD have been evacuated, the central part of the CBD is being evacuated presently and I am about to be too. Here's a cross section of Brisbane with may awesome art skills (CBD on right):
South North
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Evac River Evac Evac(now) MeAwesome diagram I'm just close to you (Samford) - I did try to copy your map but the formatting got stuffed up :( Just heard flood levels expected to peak at 4.5m tomorrow arvo then possibly higher than the '74 peak of 5.45m on Thursday. I've been out digging trenches this afternoon to keep the water out of the lounge room - but I did stop on the way home to get some wine and beer, so all is well at the .\\axxx household!
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wout de zeeuw wrote:
Recently the NYT found out that only 1.2% of Bono's One organization goes to something charitable actually. The rest all goes poof into salaries.
I would be very interested to read that, as I used to be pretty active with the One campaign. Do you have a link? I am curious what that donations for One are supposed to be for. It seems to me that the One organization is mostly about getting other organizations/governments to donate and provide support rather than actually accepting donations themselves. For example, they focused at one point on getting some country (the US?) to put more funding towards something (AIDS fund?). So they were not actually donating anything themselves, but they were applying political pressure with signatures and such to get a government to donate more. If that is the case, then I would expect 100% of donations sent to One itself to go toward salaries.
aspdotnetdev wrote:
So they were not actually donating anything themselves, but they were applying political pressure with signatures and such to get a government to donate more.
All very fine, I'm sure, but leaves the unanswered question: Who elected them to a position where they can dictate where my tax money is spent? I thought I voted for a government to do that, based on its manifesto. Sorry to be argumentative at this time of day, but it is one of my pet peeves. :-O
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I reckon sandwiches and beer delivered to the various SES headquarters would go down well. Assuming you can get there of course.
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
So they were not actually donating anything themselves, but they were applying political pressure with signatures and such to get a government to donate more.
All very fine, I'm sure, but leaves the unanswered question: Who elected them to a position where they can dictate where my tax money is spent? I thought I voted for a government to do that, based on its manifesto. Sorry to be argumentative at this time of day, but it is one of my pet peeves. :-O
I'm not sure I follow you. Basically, they had a bunch of people sign a petition to show that the public wants the government to spend what they previously agreed to spend, rather than lowering support in favor of other programs. At least, that's how I remember one of the campaigns going. They are just giving the public a method of communicating to their government. And the government doesn't (or, at least, shouldn't) do things without input from the public. They are dictating nothing. They are just a way to help steer positive change. So, to answer your question: 1) it's a trick question, they're not dictating anything and 2) the public is driving the effort anyway, by giving ONE their voice.