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  • A Ashwin C

    :zzz::wtf::wtf::laugh::eek: X| can anyone tell me the best way to get started on DX prog? any books rec? asap plz!

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    brianwelsch
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    You're getting grief for 2 reasons 1- You're asking a programming question in a forum which clearly states at the top, NO Programming questions. 2- Your question can be answered with a few minutes of Googling. You say ASAP, but make no mention of having tried to get the info yourself. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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      You're getting grief for 2 reasons 1- You're asking a programming question in a forum which clearly states at the top, NO Programming questions. 2- Your question can be answered with a few minutes of Googling. You say ASAP, but make no mention of having tried to get the info yourself. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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      Ashwin C
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      oh please..how do you know if i have tried or not!! and "THis is not a prog question"""????? whats your prob man..if you know it simply ans otherwise dont bother!

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      • T Tim Smith

        Well, it is such an open ended question. How do you even answer questions like that. Sort of like "I want to learn how to program, where do I start?"... um, with a book? Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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        Brad Jennings
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        "I want to learn how to program, where do I start?" Yeah, you're absolutely right. I couldn't even begin to imagine how to teach somebody how to program on a forum. I just thought it was funny that you gave him code on how to write a program that takes command line arguments (unless this is different in Windows, I only know what this means under Unix). Brad Jennings

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        • B brianwelsch

          Yeah, but you asked for it the Lounge. X| BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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          Megan Forbes
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          brianwelsch wrote: Yeah, but you asked for it the Lounge :laugh: Classy... :-D


          I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages A moment of silence please. A programmer's best friend has passed beyond that great exception in the sky.... - Mark Conger on "The coffee machine has died"

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            You're getting grief for 2 reasons 1- You're asking a programming question in a forum which clearly states at the top, NO Programming questions. 2- Your question can be answered with a few minutes of Googling. You say ASAP, but make no mention of having tried to get the info yourself. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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            Brian Olej
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            That wasn't really a programming question, people are getting too picky around here. A programming question would be somthing along the lines of: "How do I initialize DirectX" Why waste time learning when ignorance in instantaneous -Hobbes

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            • A Ashwin C

              oh please..how do you know if i have tried or not!! and "THis is not a prog question"""????? whats your prob man..if you know it simply ans otherwise dont bother!

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              brianwelsch
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              inertiaFreak wrote: how do you know if i have tried or not!! Google on directx rsources programming. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/list.asp?categoryid=24[^] inertiaFreak wrote: whats your prob man..if you know it simply ans otherwise dont bother! :zzz: BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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              • A Ashwin C

                :zzz::wtf::wtf::laugh::eek: X| can anyone tell me the best way to get started on DX prog? any books rec? asap plz!

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                Bao Nguyen
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                Try http://www.gamedev.net for DirectX-related forums. You might get better responses there.

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                • A Ashwin C

                  what the hell does that mean? i asked for DIRECTX !!!!

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Welcome to CP. Some tips. 1. You should post programming questions in the programming forums. It says as much above the lounge, with a link. 2. If you don't know what the example posted means, you need to forget about direct x. It was the framework for every C/C++ program, and unless you know a lot more than that about C++, you're not going to get anywhere with DirectX, which is basically COM objects accessed through C++. 3. If you feel you've been treated rudely here, please don't let it stop you from posting more and asking questions in the right forums, the fact is that we do get kind of sick of people not reading the big warnings not to post programming questions here, but for all that, we are a friendly mob, and keen to be helpful too. Just try posting in the right place, and I'm sure you'll see that we have a good side that outweighs the bad..... :-) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                  • B brianwelsch

                    inertiaFreak wrote: how do you know if i have tried or not!! Google on directx rsources programming. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/list.asp?categoryid=24[^] inertiaFreak wrote: whats your prob man..if you know it simply ans otherwise dont bother! :zzz: BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                    Ashwin C
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                    dude... thankx for that effort...i had that article bookmarked already the reason why i put it up in this forum is so that i could get first hand feedback from people...which would make my errands of searching for which stuff is good or bad ...a lot easier!

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Welcome to CP. Some tips. 1. You should post programming questions in the programming forums. It says as much above the lounge, with a link. 2. If you don't know what the example posted means, you need to forget about direct x. It was the framework for every C/C++ program, and unless you know a lot more than that about C++, you're not going to get anywhere with DirectX, which is basically COM objects accessed through C++. 3. If you feel you've been treated rudely here, please don't let it stop you from posting more and asking questions in the right forums, the fact is that we do get kind of sick of people not reading the big warnings not to post programming questions here, but for all that, we are a friendly mob, and keen to be helpful too. Just try posting in the right place, and I'm sure you'll see that we have a good side that outweighs the bad..... :-) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                      brianwelsch
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                      Can we make this a standard reply somehow? like a hidden :thingy: Its friendly, informative, and comes complete with a smiley. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Welcome to CP. Some tips. 1. You should post programming questions in the programming forums. It says as much above the lounge, with a link. 2. If you don't know what the example posted means, you need to forget about direct x. It was the framework for every C/C++ program, and unless you know a lot more than that about C++, you're not going to get anywhere with DirectX, which is basically COM objects accessed through C++. 3. If you feel you've been treated rudely here, please don't let it stop you from posting more and asking questions in the right forums, the fact is that we do get kind of sick of people not reading the big warnings not to post programming questions here, but for all that, we are a friendly mob, and keen to be helpful too. Just try posting in the right place, and I'm sure you'll see that we have a good side that outweighs the bad..... :-) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                        Ashwin C
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                        how does this qualify as a prog question!!! i was asking for book recommendations not syntax!??!!

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                        • A Ashwin C

                          how does this qualify as a prog question!!! i was asking for book recommendations not syntax!??!!

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                          David Wulff
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                          For what it's worth I agree 100% with you here - what the hell is getting these guys all riled up? You asked for a book recomendation nothing more. Sadly I can't recommend one to you, but still, it's a shame what has happened here. :confused:


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                            inertiaFreak wrote: how do you know if i have tried or not!! Google on directx rsources programming. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/list.asp?categoryid=24[^] inertiaFreak wrote: whats your prob man..if you know it simply ans otherwise dont bother! :zzz: BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                            David Wulff
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                            I've been through most of the DX articles on GD a few years back now and whilst they cover a lot they also assume you know a lot to start with - great if you already know what you want to do before you start reading, but not much help if you're just starting out with DX.


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                              how does this qualify as a prog question!!! i was asking for book recommendations not syntax!??!!

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                              Christian Graus
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                              In hindsight your post is vague enough that it could be a general programming question *or* just a request for book recommendations. However, when you write: asap plz! , the best way to annoy a group of people offering to help you for free is to tell them to hurry up about it. If your intention was just to ask about books, it was unclear, possibly in part because we are sensitive to the fact that so many people delurk by posting a programming question to the lounge. The trouble with DX is that it changes so often that the books are pretty much always obsolete as soon as they are published. You'd do better to work through the samples that come with the SDK, read the on-line docs, and if you can get a copy of the Open GL red book, buy it for the explanation of 3D theory in general. Finally, while we have our share of DX programmers who would love to help if you post questions in the programming forums, you'd find better help in forums on sites dedicated to 3D programming, I'd recommend joining a few others as well as asking here. And I'd reiterate that if you really did not recognise what int main() means, you need to forget DirectX, buy some decent books on C++ and start from there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                                For what it's worth I agree 100% with you here - what the hell is getting these guys all riled up? You asked for a book recomendation nothing more. Sadly I can't recommend one to you, but still, it's a shame what has happened here. :confused:


                                David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                                David Wulff Born and Bred.

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                                Christian Graus
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                                I agree - the post was vague enough to look like a programming question and came complete with a 'hurry up and tell me' comment, which probably contributed greatly to the way it was read by most people here, but the way newbies get treated has been a concern of mine for a while, maybe this is a prime example of our being too quick to assume wrong simply because it's been the case so often before. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                                  Can we make this a standard reply somehow? like a hidden :thingy: Its friendly, informative, and comes complete with a smiley. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson

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                                  Good idea.


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                                    "I want to learn how to program, where do I start?" Yeah, you're absolutely right. I couldn't even begin to imagine how to teach somebody how to program on a forum. I just thought it was funny that you gave him code on how to write a program that takes command line arguments (unless this is different in Windows, I only know what this means under Unix). Brad Jennings

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                                    I've been creating a lot of console applications lately. I don't even remember how to make a Window's main. :-O Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                    • J Jim Crafton

                                      Alternately you could try

                                      int main (int argc, char *argv[])
                                      {
                                      //DirectX initialization here
                                      //DirectX graphics
                                      //DirectX termination here
                                      return 0;
                                      }

                                      I find this sometimes helps more...:) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire!

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                                      jan larsen
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                                      THANKS!, youv'e solved my problem!, I have been trying to learn the DirectX API for YEARS, but when I executed this, my application would hang every time   :( :

                                      int main (int argc, char *argv[])
                                      {
                                      //DirectX initialization here
                                      //DirectX graphics
                                      //Tricky Bugs That You Will Never Find
                                      //DirectX termination here
                                      return 0;
                                      }

                                      "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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