The Code Project Reputation Hotline - A sample Azure telephony application [modified]
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
most cell phones treated long distance and local calls the same
Well maybe in the U.S. but certainly no where in Canada.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
calling plans
Ahhh...I see. This is the disconnect. You are paying a premium for a special plan to have flat rate calling to long distance. I rarely ever call long distance so I'm paying the much cheaper monthly price which charges extra for long distance. I hazard to say that despite your familiarity with voip services it would be a pretty rare circumstance to run into another person who uses it in a random survey at let's say a grocery store in your area.
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John C wrote:
I hazard to say that despite your familiarity with voip services it would be a pretty rare circumstance to run into another person who uses it in a random survey at let's say a grocery store in your area.
I don't think either of the Johns here (you and SOP) are in the random-guy-encountered-at-grocery-store category.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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John C wrote:
I hazard to say that despite your familiarity with voip services it would be a pretty rare circumstance to run into another person who uses it in a random survey at let's say a grocery store in your area.
I don't think either of the Johns here (you and SOP) are in the random-guy-encountered-at-grocery-store category.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
In these world of VOIP, Skype, Gmail calling, Jajah etc
A very small and limited world though it may be.
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Probably but for people who are not programmers and techies it is a small world otherwise. For instance, I do not know of anyone who still has traditonal phone system with only local calling. Also there is no excuse for anyone (especially techies) with internet access to complain about long distance charges when they can use Google voice pretty easily. Unlike, Gmail calling Google Voice can call to phone and you will not encounter any long distance charges.
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In these world of VOIP, Skype, Gmail calling, Jajah etc. all calls are treated as same unless you are still stuck with the big phone company. These days even unlimited international calling is included for a flat very low fee ($31/mo after tax).
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
These days even unlimited international calling is included for a flat very low fee ($31/mo after tax).
If that's a low rate is entirely dependent on how much you use it. There've been times my low rate Cellular plan from Verizon ($40/mo) has cost me $20/minute because I only made a single brief call that month. Had I bought their cheap ($10?) unlimited texting plan my lifetime cost would probably be in excess of $20/message sent for similar reasons.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
These days even unlimited international calling is included for a flat very low fee ($31/mo after tax).
If that's a low rate is entirely dependent on how much you use it. There've been times my low rate Cellular plan from Verizon ($40/mo) has cost me $20/minute because I only made a single brief call that month. Had I bought their cheap ($10?) unlimited texting plan my lifetime cost would probably be in excess of $20/message sent for similar reasons.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
I agree. But if I use local phone service it will come to around $20 with all taxes. Now for an extra $10 I am getting lot of stuff. As we make at least 5 hours of interenational call per week, it has been a good deal so far.
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Probably but for people who are not programmers and techies it is a small world otherwise. For instance, I do not know of anyone who still has traditonal phone system with only local calling. Also there is no excuse for anyone (especially techies) with internet access to complain about long distance charges when they can use Google voice pretty easily. Unlike, Gmail calling Google Voice can call to phone and you will not encounter any long distance charges.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I do not know of anyone who still has traditonal phone system with only local calling.
I personally do not know of anyone who doesn't with the exception of a few people under 30 who don't have a land line at all and just a cell phone.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Also there is no excuse for anyone WHO LIVES IN THE U.S. (especially techies) with internet access to complain about long distance charges when they can use Google voice pretty easily
F.T.F.Y. Honestly though aside from there being a quite substantial number of human beings that do not reside in the United States; you guys are being pretty elitist with your pronouncements. Maybe I'm the weird one but I have a dozens of real world friends I see regularly and I can think of none except two who are "computer" people and both of them are not programmers but one is a website designer and the other makes corporate videos. I think you guys are hugely out of touch with the average citizen on this one.
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These days I am playing with telephone applications. Unlike mobile web applications, these applications still use old fashioned voice, dial and text inputs. As a sample, I developed a code project reputation hotline. Those of you in the US can dial (404) 721 1770 (I know it is risky to give away numbers but I am going to recycle the number for my real production application). You can dial in your member id and you will hear your reputation score. Alternatively, you can sms to this number with your member id and you will get a reply SMS with your reputation score. Try it out. [Edit] You can use Gmail voice calling to call free and anonymously [/Edit] I am myself curious to know how well it holds up with substantial traffic. I can post it as an article but since it uses a third party service, the article may be construed as an ad by some.
modified on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:48 PM
My vote is to post the article ... I'd like to see it at least!
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Wow! I have never paid any long distance charges for the last 5 years or so. But then I have been using only VOIP service providers. Alternatively, you can use Gmail/Google Voice to call long distance for free.
http://phono.com/[^] Phono is a simple jQuery plugin and JavaScript library that turns any web browser into a phone; capable of making phone calls and sending instant messages. You can even connect to SIP clients; all with a simple unified API. :-D
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
I do not know of anyone who still has traditonal phone system with only local calling.
I personally do not know of anyone who doesn't with the exception of a few people under 30 who don't have a land line at all and just a cell phone.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Also there is no excuse for anyone WHO LIVES IN THE U.S. (especially techies) with internet access to complain about long distance charges when they can use Google voice pretty easily
F.T.F.Y. Honestly though aside from there being a quite substantial number of human beings that do not reside in the United States; you guys are being pretty elitist with your pronouncements. Maybe I'm the weird one but I have a dozens of real world friends I see regularly and I can think of none except two who are "computer" people and both of them are not programmers but one is a website designer and the other makes corporate videos. I think you guys are hugely out of touch with the average citizen on this one.
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Definitely agree with you. I live in the US and have VOIP telephone but many if not most of my friends and family still use POTS telephone through the local telco. Granted most also have a cell phone but pay the cheaper rate that charges for long distance calls. The 20somethings that are buried in their iPhone and Facebook is a good size of the people on the planet but not the majority by a long shot. Some of us have been around a bit longer and still have reservations about new-fangled techie things. I personally love gadgets but have a foot in the past too.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
most cell phones treated long distance and local calls the same
Well maybe in the U.S. but certainly no where in Canada.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
calling plans
Ahhh...I see. This is the disconnect. You are paying a premium for a special plan to have flat rate calling to long distance. I rarely ever call long distance so I'm paying the much cheaper monthly price which charges extra for long distance. I hazard to say that despite your familiarity with voip services it would be a pretty rare circumstance to run into another person who uses it in a random survey at let's say a grocery store in your area.
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John C wrote:
Ahhh...I see. This is the disconnect. You are paying a premium for a special plan to have flat rate calling to long distance. I rarely ever call long distance so I'm paying the much cheaper monthly price which charges extra for long distance.
Actually, about 7 years ago (I'm in the US, btw), I had MCI phone service because it was only $49.95 a month and included unlimited local and long distance calling for a flat rate. With SBC (now AT&T) the standard 400 calls with no long distance calling was $39.99 a month. I didn't really thing that $10 more a month was any kind of "premium", it just was a better deal since my wife has family a few states away. She called them enough to make it worth it for us to just pay $10 a month in case she wanted to call more than she currently had. I think we paid a total of $5 - $10 a month over when we were on AT&T so we broke even some months on MCI and others we had paid more. I think in our area AT&T is the only one to offer phone services without unlimited long distance because they have different packages to choose from... But if you look at those packages you end up only paying a few bucks less to not have long distance than you would to just have unlimited. Or you can just have high speed internet and pay $2.99 a month for skype. It has unlimited long distance calling in the US, Canada, and Mexico. It works great too. You can get a box that you can hook a conventional telephone to. I've been using it for years.
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John C wrote:
Ahhh...I see. This is the disconnect. You are paying a premium for a special plan to have flat rate calling to long distance. I rarely ever call long distance so I'm paying the much cheaper monthly price which charges extra for long distance.
Actually, about 7 years ago (I'm in the US, btw), I had MCI phone service because it was only $49.95 a month and included unlimited local and long distance calling for a flat rate. With SBC (now AT&T) the standard 400 calls with no long distance calling was $39.99 a month. I didn't really thing that $10 more a month was any kind of "premium", it just was a better deal since my wife has family a few states away. She called them enough to make it worth it for us to just pay $10 a month in case she wanted to call more than she currently had. I think we paid a total of $5 - $10 a month over when we were on AT&T so we broke even some months on MCI and others we had paid more. I think in our area AT&T is the only one to offer phone services without unlimited long distance because they have different packages to choose from... But if you look at those packages you end up only paying a few bucks less to not have long distance than you would to just have unlimited. Or you can just have high speed internet and pay $2.99 a month for skype. It has unlimited long distance calling in the US, Canada, and Mexico. It works great too. You can get a box that you can hook a conventional telephone to. I've been using it for years.
TheCodeMonk wrote:
only $49.95 a month
:omg: Only? Wow what a steal? :) That's a bloody huge amount to pay per month for a phone or am I crazy. With all the competition you have in the U.S. I'd think it would be a small fraction of that.
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These days I am playing with telephone applications. Unlike mobile web applications, these applications still use old fashioned voice, dial and text inputs. As a sample, I developed a code project reputation hotline. Those of you in the US can dial (404) 721 1770 (I know it is risky to give away numbers but I am going to recycle the number for my real production application). You can dial in your member id and you will hear your reputation score. Alternatively, you can sms to this number with your member id and you will get a reply SMS with your reputation score. Try it out. [Edit] You can use Gmail voice calling to call free and anonymously [/Edit] I am myself curious to know how well it holds up with substantial traffic. I can post it as an article but since it uses a third party service, the article may be construed as an ad by some.
modified on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:48 PM
I tried it and it worked great, but I'm curious as to how the telephone is interfaced to Azure.
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My vote is to post the article ... I'd like to see it at least!
I agree. I'd like to see the article as well.