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  • L Lost User

    My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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    For those who distrust anything from the UN or EU ignore the following ... Read these for some background information http://www.unece.org/env/pp/[^] and http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/electrical/files/lv/rec519_en.pdf[^]

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      My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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      wizardzz
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      My father never would've let me move to a place near that. He worked for the EPA so I'll take his word. Another anecdotal story note. My girlfriend in high school lived under / next to high power lines. Her sister developed bone cancer in her leg at age 11 and lost her leg up to the thigh. She's in her 20's now and in remission.

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        My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        Don't worry. Just wear one of these: http://blog.franciscocosta.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tin-foil-hat.jpg?rand=207085591[^]

        "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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          For those who distrust anything from the UN or EU ignore the following ... Read these for some background information http://www.unece.org/env/pp/[^] and http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/electrical/files/lv/rec519_en.pdf[^]

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Right. Like I'm gonna trust something from the UN of all places.

          "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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            Argyle4Ever wrote:

            Would you want your (Future?) Kids/Pets being able to possibly go into the substation?

            One of the things that put me off was the razor wire fence

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Josh Gray wrote:

            razor wire fence

            Well, it's meant to put you off. It's there for a reason: to protect you and yours from getting electrocuted.

            "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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            • L Lost User

              My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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              It's probably less painful than a vasectomy. :~

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                It's probably less painful than a vasectomy. :~

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                jeron1 wrote:

                It's probably less painful than a vasectomy

                In about a month from now I will have produced three kids in just over two years. The snip is one of my plans for this year :)

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Right. Like I'm gonna trust something from the UN of all places.

                  "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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                  ahmed zahmed wrote:

                  Right. Like I'm gonna trust something from the UN of all places.

                  Edited, OK now?

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                    ahmed zahmed wrote:

                    Right. Like I'm gonna trust something from the UN of all places.

                    Edited, OK now?

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    LOL. 5!

                    "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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                    • L Lost User

                      My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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                      Brian C Hart
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                      Sucks for you for being married

                      Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart

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                      • L Lost User

                        My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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                        A friend of mine lived near a substation like that, and would get power surges that fried ceiling fans.

                        Curvature of the Mind

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                        • L Lost User

                          My wife has falen in love with a house which is about 50 meters from a large electrical substation which you can see here[^] I'm finding it difficult to find any reliable information about the possible health effects of living so close to such a thing. Does anyone here have any opinion? Update I just found this[^]. Basically, Energy Australia are planning to start rebuilding this substation this month and expect the works to take several years. Explains why the house is so cheap, I think we'll keep looking

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          Slightly off topic, but might be useful: link[^] If not for the telecom/power substation thing, I would have thought it was the same house :) Fwiw, Rama makes an excellent point about resale value.

                          Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                            Slightly off topic, but might be useful: link[^] If not for the telecom/power substation thing, I would have thought it was the same house :) Fwiw, Rama makes an excellent point about resale value.

                            Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            Slightly off topic, but might be useful: link[^] If not for the telecom/power substation thing, I would have thought it was the same house Smile Fwiw, Rama makes an excellent point about resale value.

                            Wow, you've got a good memory! We decided to let that one go and keep looking.

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                            • H Henry Minute

                              I suspect that the CP member most able to answer this question would be Woger. After all he spends a great deal of his work time messing about with that there Electrickery stuff. After all this time he's still aaaaaalriiiiiight(ish).

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!

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                              There has been no correlation found between low frequency EMFs and any human disorder in any legitimate study performed to date. That doesn't mean that it's safe, however, just that no study has looked in the right place or manner yet. Physically, there is no reason to suspect any adverse reaction. The energy fields drop in strength rapidly with distance, and are readily attenuated by solid objects. Electromagnetic radiation is non-ionizing; it lacks the energy to dissociate atoms in molecular bonds, though I don't find it hard to imagine that it might cause subtle changes in biochemical reaction rates which are easily influenced by energy balances within the reagents. That is, while EMFs can't cause damage to cells at low frequencies, the presence of free energy in the ambient environment might well cause a bit more of compound X to form at the loss of a little compound Y in a reaction. At higher frequencies, such as those found in cell phones, wireless phones and computer networks, and microwave ovens, there is definite physical damage, caused by thermal effects. EMFs are composed of two distinct fields - an electric field and a tranverse magnetic field. Water is a basic building block of all life, and happens to be a slightly polar molecule. This polarity allows these molecules to be set in motion by a varying electric field, and the resulting friction due to molecular collisions generates heat. At frequencies near the resonant frequency of the water molecule ( around 2.45 MHz) this heating is amplified because of the resonance. In sufficient strength, the effect on the brain is approximately the same as boiling an egg. While there are no "facts" I can draw upon, I would hesitate to expose children to a substation environment unless the station was a fair distance from their yard and bedroom. As an adult, I wouldn't hesitate, but kids' bodies are still growing and developing, and those subtle chemical changes I suspect but cannot prove could affect their bodies in ways we can't predict. I wouldn't take the chance if I could avoid it.

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              • K Kevin Marois

                                Run an extension cord. :)

                                Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                                Steve Mayfield
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                                Don't need the extension cord. Just locate the wall nearest the substation, put "8 foot tall art work" consisting of several coils of insulated copper on the wall...you know the rest ;)

                                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  There has been no correlation found between low frequency EMFs and any human disorder in any legitimate study performed to date. That doesn't mean that it's safe, however, just that no study has looked in the right place or manner yet. Physically, there is no reason to suspect any adverse reaction. The energy fields drop in strength rapidly with distance, and are readily attenuated by solid objects. Electromagnetic radiation is non-ionizing; it lacks the energy to dissociate atoms in molecular bonds, though I don't find it hard to imagine that it might cause subtle changes in biochemical reaction rates which are easily influenced by energy balances within the reagents. That is, while EMFs can't cause damage to cells at low frequencies, the presence of free energy in the ambient environment might well cause a bit more of compound X to form at the loss of a little compound Y in a reaction. At higher frequencies, such as those found in cell phones, wireless phones and computer networks, and microwave ovens, there is definite physical damage, caused by thermal effects. EMFs are composed of two distinct fields - an electric field and a tranverse magnetic field. Water is a basic building block of all life, and happens to be a slightly polar molecule. This polarity allows these molecules to be set in motion by a varying electric field, and the resulting friction due to molecular collisions generates heat. At frequencies near the resonant frequency of the water molecule ( around 2.45 MHz) this heating is amplified because of the resonance. In sufficient strength, the effect on the brain is approximately the same as boiling an egg. While there are no "facts" I can draw upon, I would hesitate to expose children to a substation environment unless the station was a fair distance from their yard and bedroom. As an adult, I wouldn't hesitate, but kids' bodies are still growing and developing, and those subtle chemical changes I suspect but cannot prove could affect their bodies in ways we can't predict. I wouldn't take the chance if I could avoid it.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  my 5! You make some good points and I like the way you think.

                                  "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams

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