Don't tell Christians' DNA... [modified]
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...but it seems that it might be able to teleport[^]. I doubt the claims 100% but if there turns out to be true there are going to be one hell of a lot of calls for reviews of convictions.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
modified on Monday, January 17, 2011 1:56 PM
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...but it seems that it might be able to teleport[^]. I doubt the claims 100% but if there turns out to be true there are going to be one hell of a lot of calls for reviews of convictions.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
modified on Monday, January 17, 2011 1:56 PM
"You need to log in to read this article" You suck ;P
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"You need to log in to read this article" You suck ;P
Different link.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Different link.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
Too late I've just forked out $10 to view that article :doh: Joking ;)
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...but it seems that it might be able to teleport[^]. I doubt the claims 100% but if there turns out to be true there are going to be one hell of a lot of calls for reviews of convictions.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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What bothers me about it is that DNA as we know it requires carbon, phosphorus, sulfur, etc to make up its molecules. Are they saying that the water molecules themselves arranged themselves to form a structure similar to DNA, or that DNA "appeared" somehow with all the normal molecular and atomic structure? The article was somewhat ambiguous but seemed to hint the latter...
According to Montagnier, the DNA was recovered from both tubes even though the second should have only contained water.
I guess we'll see - there's sure to be plenty of furor over it and the actual situation will be clarified. Perhaps there is an entirely new phenomenon or perhaps it was experimental error - who knows.
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What bothers me about it is that DNA as we know it requires carbon, phosphorus, sulfur, etc to make up its molecules. Are they saying that the water molecules themselves arranged themselves to form a structure similar to DNA, or that DNA "appeared" somehow with all the normal molecular and atomic structure? The article was somewhat ambiguous but seemed to hint the latter...
According to Montagnier, the DNA was recovered from both tubes even though the second should have only contained water.
I guess we'll see - there's sure to be plenty of furor over it and the actual situation will be clarified. Perhaps there is an entirely new phenomenon or perhaps it was experimental error - who knows.
I wasn't aware of the chemistry in the way that you seem to be but from the link and the article on New Scientist I got the impression that your former suggestion was what happens. Sort of as if a DNA shaped structure/mould appeared.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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What bothers me about it is that DNA as we know it requires carbon, phosphorus, sulfur, etc to make up its molecules. Are they saying that the water molecules themselves arranged themselves to form a structure similar to DNA, or that DNA "appeared" somehow with all the normal molecular and atomic structure? The article was somewhat ambiguous but seemed to hint the latter...
According to Montagnier, the DNA was recovered from both tubes even though the second should have only contained water.
I guess we'll see - there's sure to be plenty of furor over it and the actual situation will be clarified. Perhaps there is an entirely new phenomenon or perhaps it was experimental error - who knows.
Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle? :laugh: I suspect contamination, myself.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle? :laugh: I suspect contamination, myself.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle?
You should see if you can find the video "Storm" by Tim Minchin. Really only the audio is necessary (and seems to be all I can find these days). There is a bit about homeopathy that this discussion would go perfect with. :)
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I wasn't aware of the chemistry in the way that you seem to be but from the link and the article on New Scientist I got the impression that your former suggestion was what happens. Sort of as if a DNA shaped structure/mould appeared.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle? :laugh: I suspect contamination, myself.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle? Laugh
Sounds like the plot for a bad "documentary" movie in the making, huh? Something on the order of "What The Bleep Do We Know?"... :-\
OriginalGriff wrote:
I suspect contamination, myself.
Yep, that was my first thought. We'll see how it plays out.
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...but it seems that it might be able to teleport[^]. I doubt the claims 100% but if there turns out to be true there are going to be one hell of a lot of calls for reviews of convictions.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Montagnier and his team say this suggests DNA emits its own electromagnetic signals that imprint the DNA’s structure on other molecules (like water). So how do you imprint structure made of thousands of complex atoms on a molecule made up of three simple ones? I've seen some good compression algorithms, but this is a bit of a reach.
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Montagnier and his team say this suggests DNA emits its own electromagnetic signals that imprint the DNA’s structure on other molecules (like water). So how do you imprint structure made of thousands of complex atoms on a molecule made up of three simple ones? I've seen some good compression algorithms, but this is a bit of a reach.
Rob Graham wrote:
So how do you imprint structure made of thousands of complex atoms on a molecule made up of three simple ones? I've seen some good compression algorithms, but this is a bit of a reach.
Yup. Maybe it's less of a teleporter and more of a replicator.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Montagnier and his team say this suggests DNA emits its own electromagnetic signals that imprint the DNA’s structure on other molecules (like water). So how do you imprint structure made of thousands of complex atoms on a molecule made up of three simple ones? I've seen some good compression algorithms, but this is a bit of a reach.
Emergent properties? Think about the Game of Life: simple rules, simple playing field. Complex results.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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What bothers me about it is that DNA as we know it requires carbon, phosphorus, sulfur, etc to make up its molecules. Are they saying that the water molecules themselves arranged themselves to form a structure similar to DNA, or that DNA "appeared" somehow with all the normal molecular and atomic structure? The article was somewhat ambiguous but seemed to hint the latter...
According to Montagnier, the DNA was recovered from both tubes even though the second should have only contained water.
I guess we'll see - there's sure to be plenty of furor over it and the actual situation will be clarified. Perhaps there is an entirely new phenomenon or perhaps it was experimental error - who knows.
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Wouldn't this be evidence of an unintentional spontaneous creation of life? Ah, so maybe we are god's mistake?
Well there would have to be a "signal" of whatever sort causing the structures to form to begin with in that case - so fundamentally it would seem to have no bearing on that debate - at least with the limited speculation we can make at this point (pending further study of this apparent 'phenomenon').
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...but it seems that it might be able to teleport[^]. I doubt the claims 100% but if there turns out to be true there are going to be one hell of a lot of calls for reviews of convictions.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Perhaps the DNA did a little surfing on electromagnetic waves to get from one tube to the other. Or, does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
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Perhaps the DNA did a little surfing on electromagnetic waves to get from one tube to the other. Or, does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
Steve Mayfield wrote:
Or, does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
Only if they share a toilet seat.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
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Perhaps the DNA did a little surfing on electromagnetic waves to get from one tube to the other. Or, does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
Steve Mayfield wrote:
does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
That's called whistling, and that will either get him slapped or could indeed lead to a pregnancy later. Though, if he were doing it for 18 hours, it would most likely lead to a restraining order and perhaps a little time in a white padded room.
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Steve Mayfield wrote:
does this mean if a guy sits near a girl in the pool and hums at 7Hz for 18 hours, she can get pregnent?
That's called whistling, and that will either get him slapped or could indeed lead to a pregnancy later. Though, if he were doing it for 18 hours, it would most likely lead to a restraining order and perhaps a little time in a white padded room.
At 7Hz I think you're more likely to attract whales...
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Isn't homoeopathy based on pretty much this principle? :laugh: I suspect contamination, myself.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
This blogger would tend to agree: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/01/the_nobel_disease_meets_dna_teleportatio.php[^] Apparently, the reaction they used to replicate DNA is extremely vulnerable to contamination.
