Windows 2000 vs OS X
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Here's an interesting comparison between Mac OS X and W2K. cheers, Chris Maunder
Interesting, but it will not get me to change my pc for a MAC ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Interesting, but it will not get me to change my pc for a MAC ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
No www.macproject.com then? :-P cheers, Chris Maunder
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No www.macproject.com then? :-P cheers, Chris Maunder
Well, it already exists... (http://www.macproject.com/) but it's not about computers/programming... OS X might bee good, but I don't think it get's a lot of users right now. I don't think it's that easy to convert people from Windows to MAC :) My dad is a MAC user, and has been since, err, 1987 or so, and he is in no hurry to upgrade to OS X... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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No www.macproject.com then? :-P cheers, Chris Maunder
No www.macproject.com then? I think I would start programming VB before I would start using a MAC X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Here's an interesting comparison between Mac OS X and W2K. cheers, Chris Maunder
Hi, The new OSX is actually pretty well done! The BSD-Unix underpinnings are very stable; I haven't been able to bring down the system yet after two months of heavy use. It runs almost all the current Mac software, and a lot of UNIX and XWindows software as well. For web designers, it's a dream. I've got Apache, PHP, and MySQL running in the UNIX background, and I can use all the current MacOS web design software (Dreamweaver, Photoshop, etc) in the foreground. Now that's a seriously useful situation. The interface is a bit 'gluey' for my taste still; I like the snappy feel of current MacOS or Windows over the liquidy fade-in, fade-out menus etc; but that's my preference. I hear the new version of Windows (is it XP?) is going that same liquidy way, so you'll all get to see what you think about it for yourselves. All in all, I give it a hearty recommendation! ken
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No www.macproject.com then? I think I would start programming VB before I would start using a MAC X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
LOL!!! :) ;) ;P :-D :cool: Farhan Noor Qureshi
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No www.macproject.com then? I think I would start programming VB before I would start using a MAC X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Hah! That the best VB insult you can come up with? We have all heard worse and they are all (well ok maybe not ALL) baseless. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
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Hi, The new OSX is actually pretty well done! The BSD-Unix underpinnings are very stable; I haven't been able to bring down the system yet after two months of heavy use. It runs almost all the current Mac software, and a lot of UNIX and XWindows software as well. For web designers, it's a dream. I've got Apache, PHP, and MySQL running in the UNIX background, and I can use all the current MacOS web design software (Dreamweaver, Photoshop, etc) in the foreground. Now that's a seriously useful situation. The interface is a bit 'gluey' for my taste still; I like the snappy feel of current MacOS or Windows over the liquidy fade-in, fade-out menus etc; but that's my preference. I hear the new version of Windows (is it XP?) is going that same liquidy way, so you'll all get to see what you think about it for yourselves. All in all, I give it a hearty recommendation! ken
Hey! Who let that Mac guy in here ;-p
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Here's an interesting comparison between Mac OS X and W2K. cheers, Chris Maunder
What really disturbs me about that review is that they are praising Apple for the same violations that Microsoft is being Crucified for. Positive Aspects of Mac: 1) Hardware Compatibility - Does anyone really think that Microsoft could get away with declaring that certain components and no others would be supported by windows. 2) Internet Integration - Microsoft is trying to accomplish the same thing that iTunes does, and everyone declares 'Antitrust violation' 3) For those that are 'Open-Source' supporters, Apply took an Open-Source operating system and is not returning any of its advances to the community. So basically what they are saying is that Apple should be applauded for having a Software/Hardware monopoly in the Mac market while Microsoft should be broken up for having just a Software monopoly in the PC Market. I am still wary of Microsoft's licensing (sp?) of Windows XP and .NET but I'll support them now just to spite the hypocritical media and justice department. BTW, I've been reading CP for months, and must say that this is the most cordial group of people that I've had the pleasure of reading.
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What really disturbs me about that review is that they are praising Apple for the same violations that Microsoft is being Crucified for. Positive Aspects of Mac: 1) Hardware Compatibility - Does anyone really think that Microsoft could get away with declaring that certain components and no others would be supported by windows. 2) Internet Integration - Microsoft is trying to accomplish the same thing that iTunes does, and everyone declares 'Antitrust violation' 3) For those that are 'Open-Source' supporters, Apply took an Open-Source operating system and is not returning any of its advances to the community. So basically what they are saying is that Apple should be applauded for having a Software/Hardware monopoly in the Mac market while Microsoft should be broken up for having just a Software monopoly in the PC Market. I am still wary of Microsoft's licensing (sp?) of Windows XP and .NET but I'll support them now just to spite the hypocritical media and justice department. BTW, I've been reading CP for months, and must say that this is the most cordial group of people that I've had the pleasure of reading.
I couldn't agree with you more, but Microsoft's latest strategy goes way beyond monopoly. They're seriously looking to take over the world through business, and it's going to get them into some serious litigation. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft had spies and hitmen to back up the war they're waging. :)
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What really disturbs me about that review is that they are praising Apple for the same violations that Microsoft is being Crucified for. Positive Aspects of Mac: 1) Hardware Compatibility - Does anyone really think that Microsoft could get away with declaring that certain components and no others would be supported by windows. 2) Internet Integration - Microsoft is trying to accomplish the same thing that iTunes does, and everyone declares 'Antitrust violation' 3) For those that are 'Open-Source' supporters, Apply took an Open-Source operating system and is not returning any of its advances to the community. So basically what they are saying is that Apple should be applauded for having a Software/Hardware monopoly in the Mac market while Microsoft should be broken up for having just a Software monopoly in the PC Market. I am still wary of Microsoft's licensing (sp?) of Windows XP and .NET but I'll support them now just to spite the hypocritical media and justice department. BTW, I've been reading CP for months, and must say that this is the most cordial group of people that I've had the pleasure of reading.
I think you're right about the different expectations of hardware compatibility; much of the ease of integration of MacOS hardware and OS has been simplified by the limited amount of hardware. Is it a feature? Well, in a way...it does make it easier for the average user to get up and running, but it's a little unfair. As far as Apple's open-source honesty, they have made the underlying code (called "Darwin") completely open source; you can compile that up for an Intel box if you want, and it's truly open. XWindows runs on it, and a lot of other popular UNIX software. So that's fair enough to be called "open source" I suppose. Apple does also give away it's fairly robust QuickTime streaming server, including all the source code, which is quite something. It's a great piece of software to release to the open-source movement, naturally in the hope of building market share. In fact, the only parts of MacOSX that are not open source are the parts that Apple bases it's entire business on, namely the Carbon libraries (the updated NEXTSTEP framework), the GUI, and the Classic MacOS environment. It's hard to imagine how they could make those open-source, give them away, and still have a business. So, it's certainly a hybrid open-source setup, but I think that's fair enough, really. You can take Darwin, install it on a box of your choosing, install Apache, QTSServer, MySQL, and you're not too bad off for the cost of the hardware. Sure, you can do the same with Linux. Apple has released enough source code for Darwin though that anyone who wants to port something to Darwin from UNIX can do so. Does that help them make their own bed? ... sure it does. Ken