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  • I Ian Shlasko

    At home, I'm already exclusively using Libre on my desktop and OO.o on my netbook... Had the MS Office 2010 beta until it expired (I was planning on buying it), but decided it's just not worth the money anymore. I think MS Office is still better at some things (Envelope printing, for one), but it's a lot more even than it was a few years ago. EDIT: Oh, and by the way, Libre has been out for a while now... They just put it back into beta when they forked, because they were in the process of removing all of the OO.o branding and such.

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    Single Step Debugger
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    I’m wondering why MS doesn’t sell some of the office components separately. I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it. For the most of the home users World + Excel will cover all their current or future needs.

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      I’m wondering why MS doesn’t sell some of the office components separately. I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it. For the most of the home users World + Excel will cover all their current or future needs.

      There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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      Dima Popov
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      The Word is not enough.

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      • S Single Step Debugger

        I’m wondering why MS doesn’t sell some of the office components separately. I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it. For the most of the home users World + Excel will cover all their current or future needs.

        There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        Phil Martin
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        They do. I can buy off the shelf both Word and Excel separately. Well, at least I could with Office 2007, I assume it's the same with 2010.

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        • D Dima Popov

          The Word is not enough.

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          • S Single Step Debugger

            I’m wondering why MS doesn’t sell some of the office components separately. I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it. For the most of the home users World + Excel will cover all their current or future needs.

            There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            Dalek Dave
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            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

            I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it.

            Is the world enough?

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            • S Single Step Debugger

              I’m wondering why MS doesn’t sell some of the office components separately. I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it. For the most of the home users World + Excel will cover all their current or future needs.

              There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Deyan Georgiev wrote:

              I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it

              Word, I guess :). Have you tried OneNote? The best Office application hands-down.

              Deyan Georgiev wrote:

              For the most of the home users

              Sure, but MS Office is primarily aimed at corporate users where integration with Exchange and SharePoint may be important.

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              • T Tim Carmichael

                I use OO as home and we are considering using it at work where we can. Never having heard of LibreOffice before today, what is the difference between the two? Why would someone choose one over the other? We will be getting a new laptop at home this week and an office suite WILL be installed shortly thereafter, so... OpenOffice or LibreOffice, and why? Thanks in advance, Tim

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                LibreOfffice is simply a community fork of OpenOffice which is under control of big bad Oracle.

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                • H hairy_hats

                  OpenOffice.org fork LibreOffice [^] has just been released. Hopefully they'll work out how to speed up program startup, but even without that it looks like a positive development in the arena of office suites.

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                  Paul E Davies
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                  I use OO at home - What's the main differences with Libra?

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    I use OO as home and we are considering using it at work where we can. Never having heard of LibreOffice before today, what is the difference between the two? Why would someone choose one over the other? We will be getting a new laptop at home this week and an office suite WILL be installed shortly thereafter, so... OpenOffice or LibreOffice, and why? Thanks in advance, Tim

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                    Ian Shlasko
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                    They're pretty much the same thing, at this point... It was all originally StarOffice (Maybe there was more before that, but that's as far back as my historical knowledge goes)... Sun Microsystems bought StarOffice, and somehow it split into StarOffice and OpenOffice.org, with the latter being open source. Now, Sun had historically been friendly toward FOSS... They contributed to the community and didn't try to destroy anything, as far as I'm aware. Oracle, on the other hand... Oracle semi-recently bought up Sun, as you're probably aware, and they basically kicked the open source to the curb (MySQL is a bit uncertain at this point, though Oracle hasn't made their move yet)... They didn't come right out and fire everyone, but I believe the OO.o guys were "encouraged" to leave, and most (all?) of them did. So, OO.o, being an open-source project, was simply forked to become LibreOffice. Oracle owns the trademark, so they had to change the name and rebrand it... I'm guessing they also added features that weren't permitted in the Sun/Oracle days (I haven't researched it much), but for the most part, LibreOffice is just the next version of OO.o at this point. The difference is in the future... OO.o is very likely to stagnate and fade out, as Oracle really doesn't want it. LibreOffice is alive and kicking, so that's where you want to be right now. (Not 100% about some of the history, so I welcome any corrections)

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                    • P Paul E Davies

                      I use OO at home - What's the main differences with Libra?

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      See the replies to Tim's post above :)

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                        I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it.

                        Is the world enough?

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                        Dima Popov
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                        World 2010 was good, the new version was released recently.

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          See the replies to Tim's post above :)

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                          Paul E Davies
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                          Just seen it, thanks. Sounds like not a bad idea to move away from OO.

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                          • D Dima Popov

                            World 2010 was good, the new version was released recently.

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            I thought it was still in beta?

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                            • D Dima Popov

                              The Word is not enough.

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                              Dima Popov wrote:

                              The Word is not enough.

                              Only for version 007!

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                              • I Ian Shlasko

                                They're pretty much the same thing, at this point... It was all originally StarOffice (Maybe there was more before that, but that's as far back as my historical knowledge goes)... Sun Microsystems bought StarOffice, and somehow it split into StarOffice and OpenOffice.org, with the latter being open source. Now, Sun had historically been friendly toward FOSS... They contributed to the community and didn't try to destroy anything, as far as I'm aware. Oracle, on the other hand... Oracle semi-recently bought up Sun, as you're probably aware, and they basically kicked the open source to the curb (MySQL is a bit uncertain at this point, though Oracle hasn't made their move yet)... They didn't come right out and fire everyone, but I believe the OO.o guys were "encouraged" to leave, and most (all?) of them did. So, OO.o, being an open-source project, was simply forked to become LibreOffice. Oracle owns the trademark, so they had to change the name and rebrand it... I'm guessing they also added features that weren't permitted in the Sun/Oracle days (I haven't researched it much), but for the most part, LibreOffice is just the next version of OO.o at this point. The difference is in the future... OO.o is very likely to stagnate and fade out, as Oracle really doesn't want it. LibreOffice is alive and kicking, so that's where you want to be right now. (Not 100% about some of the history, so I welcome any corrections)

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                                • P Phil Martin

                                  They do. I can buy off the shelf both Word and Excel separately. Well, at least I could with Office 2007, I assume it's the same with 2010.

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                                  Didn’t knew that, thanks for the info.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    I thought it was still in beta?

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                                    Dima Popov
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                                    But it came as an auto-update.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                      I have MS Office 2010 but I’m using only the World from it.

                                      Is the world enough?

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                      Single Step Debugger
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                                      I’m not going to fix this one; it’s quite a funny typo.

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                                      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                        Never did understand why a big company would buy an open-source project to kill it. Once they do, it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing. So, basically, the big company wastes its money for nothing.

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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                        it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing.

                                        Not really. Many producers of open-source software make their living by selling a more powerful commercial version of the product. To be able to do that, they need to own the code, even if they release (a part of it) under GPL.

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                          it's guaranteed to branch and resume where it was last standing.

                                          Not really. Many producers of open-source software make their living by selling a more powerful commercial version of the product. To be able to do that, they need to own the code, even if they release (a part of it) under GPL.

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                                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                          Note, I did say buy it to kill it.

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