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    Christian Graus
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    I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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      I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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      Christian Graus wrote: I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Absolutely, it makes me think of the good ol' days. :) Nick Parker
      May your glass be ever full. May the roof over your head be always strong. And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing


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        I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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        Good comment. I wonder if people living in the 30's, 40's and 50's, or before, were saying a similar thing...?


        I'd wear a miniskirt and pimp myself for an extra ten grand a year. - David Wulff

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          I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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          I'm from the other side of the planet, but I recognize myself in this description :) When I was a child I still knew I would regret that time


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            Good comment. I wonder if people living in the 30's, 40's and 50's, or before, were saying a similar thing...?


            I'd wear a miniskirt and pimp myself for an extra ten grand a year. - David Wulff

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            I suspect every generation looks back on childhood as a golden age and considers things to have gone downhill since, but I think the politically correct, materialistic world we live in, where kids spend more time sitting down and less time playing outside, where your actions are always someone elses fault and your parents side with kids instead of authority, is definately not teaching anything valuable to our children. When THEY raise kids, I shudder to think about the world I will enter retirement in. ( Not that I ever intend to retire ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              I suspect every generation looks back on childhood as a golden age and considers things to have gone downhill since, but I think the politically correct, materialistic world we live in, where kids spend more time sitting down and less time playing outside, where your actions are always someone elses fault and your parents side with kids instead of authority, is definately not teaching anything valuable to our children. When THEY raise kids, I shudder to think about the world I will enter retirement in. ( Not that I ever intend to retire ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Christian Graus wrote: ...is definately not teaching anything valuable to our children. When THEY raise kids, I shudder to think about the world I will enter retirement in. OMG! We're turning into our parents! :-) Christian Graus wrote: Not that I ever intend to retire I can just see you on your deathbed, banging away on a laptop resting on your chest, mumbling "no, no, not yet! there's one more bug left!" :laugh:


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                Christian Graus wrote: ...is definately not teaching anything valuable to our children. When THEY raise kids, I shudder to think about the world I will enter retirement in. OMG! We're turning into our parents! :-) Christian Graus wrote: Not that I ever intend to retire I can just see you on your deathbed, banging away on a laptop resting on your chest, mumbling "no, no, not yet! there's one more bug left!" :laugh:


                I'd wear a miniskirt and pimp myself for an extra ten grand a year. - David Wulff

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                Taka Muraoka wrote: I can just see you on your deathbed, banging away on a laptop resting on your chest, mumbling "no, no, not yet! there's one more bug left!" Sad, but probably quite true.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                  I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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                  Good post, Yes it brings back some memories. I lived on Galveston, Texas (that is an island and city south of Houston) for about a year. My brother and I thought it was the greatest place we lived while growing up. We would just hope on our bikes and ride over the whole island by ourselves. Grab our fishing poles and stop by the shrimp boats coming in. Tose the skipper a quarter or two (what ever we had) and he would gives us a couple of pounds for fish bait. Go out and fish for a few hours or untill we caught dinner. If we did not catch anything worthy of eating we could always live with some of the left over bait if we had to. At least it was fresh. Well my parents just could not stand everything rusting away in a few months so we did not stay. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                    Good post, Yes it brings back some memories. I lived on Galveston, Texas (that is an island and city south of Houston) for about a year. My brother and I thought it was the greatest place we lived while growing up. We would just hope on our bikes and ride over the whole island by ourselves. Grab our fishing poles and stop by the shrimp boats coming in. Tose the skipper a quarter or two (what ever we had) and he would gives us a couple of pounds for fish bait. Go out and fish for a few hours or untill we caught dinner. If we did not catch anything worthy of eating we could always live with some of the left over bait if we had to. At least it was fresh. Well my parents just could not stand everything rusting away in a few months so we did not stay. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                    Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Well my parents just could not stand everything rusting away in a few months so we did not stay. Can sue your parents for not giving you a fulfilled childhood ? :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                      I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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                      Christian Graus wrote: We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. That's it exactly. I spent a few years of my childhood in a place called Randburg in Johannesburg. At the time, our suburb had just been sold to the town council, and stopped being a farm (it is now pretty central, definitely part of a city :( ). My parents never knew where we were, we had to be home before sunset :) . Unfortunately the world is a less safe place now. Children get raped and die there now. What has the world become? :((


                      I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages A moment of silence please. A programmer's best friend has passed beyond that great exception in the sky.... - Mark Conger on "The coffee machine has died"

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                        Christian Graus wrote: We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. That's it exactly. I spent a few years of my childhood in a place called Randburg in Johannesburg. At the time, our suburb had just been sold to the town council, and stopped being a farm (it is now pretty central, definitely part of a city :( ). My parents never knew where we were, we had to be home before sunset :) . Unfortunately the world is a less safe place now. Children get raped and die there now. What has the world become? :((


                        I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages A moment of silence please. A programmer's best friend has passed beyond that great exception in the sky.... - Mark Conger on "The coffee machine has died"

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                        Megan Forbes wrote: What has the world become? Exactly the point I thought the author missed. I'd love to send my kids to play all day, but I'd be beside myself until I could see them again. And it's relatively safe where I live. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                          I thought this had more than a grain of truth in it. Congratulations are in order if you lived as a child in the 60's, 70's or even early 80's. Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have... As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a ute on a warm day was always a special treat. Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking as a young kid!) We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem. We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back before dinner time. No one was able to reach us all day. No mobile phones. Unthinkable. We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents? We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soft drink but we were never overweight... we were always outside playing. We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from this. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, video games at all, 99 channels on pay TV, video tape movies, surround sound, personal mobile phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it? We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever. We played footy down the park and not everyone got picked to play. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade.....Horrors. Tests were not adjusted for any reason. Our actions were our ow

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                          Bittersweet Christian :( :) Life for kids now is much more about sitting around as a new consumer rather than getting out and doing things. Looking at the list, so much of that involved exercise whereas now..... One thing we did (precursor of skateboards) was take a roller skate, la a piece of board on it and sit on that going down a hill :eek: Sometimes we had a small ramp to fly off and the skill was in pulling the skate and board out from under before you hit the ground :wtf: Elaine (amazingly intact fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                            Bittersweet Christian :( :) Life for kids now is much more about sitting around as a new consumer rather than getting out and doing things. Looking at the list, so much of that involved exercise whereas now..... One thing we did (precursor of skateboards) was take a roller skate, la a piece of board on it and sit on that going down a hill :eek: Sometimes we had a small ramp to fly off and the skill was in pulling the skate and board out from under before you hit the ground :wtf: Elaine (amazingly intact fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                            Where's the quote button ??? And the emoticons ? :confused: :confused: Anyhow, I did that, too. A big board, which I covered in carpet, and one of the roller skates my sister got for Christmas, a few weeks before... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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