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  • A AspDotNetDev

    A friend said he and I should visit England and I wanted to see if that includes Ireland (it does not)... surprising how confusing the British Isles are. Thanks to this page, I think I'm finally starting to understand it:

    • Great Britain includes Scotland, Wales, and England.
    • The UK includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
    • The British Isles includes the UK, the Republic of Ireland, and a few smaller islands.

    Now, some questions for you, er, British Isles folk. When somebody says "Britain", do they mean Great Britain or the British Isles? And when somebody says "Ireland", do they mean both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or do they mean just one of those two? As a bonus question, what are each of these things categorized as (e.g., country, state)? :doh: And before you ask, no, geography was not my strongest subject in school.

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    Lost User
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    Combined the UK and the Republic of Ireland are smaller than New Mexico. Does anybody really care what it's called or why? ;P ;P ;P ;P I mean as long as they keep making Guinness. ;)

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      A friend said he and I should visit England and I wanted to see if that includes Ireland (it does not)... surprising how confusing the British Isles are. Thanks to this page, I think I'm finally starting to understand it:

      • Great Britain includes Scotland, Wales, and England.
      • The UK includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
      • The British Isles includes the UK, the Republic of Ireland, and a few smaller islands.

      Now, some questions for you, er, British Isles folk. When somebody says "Britain", do they mean Great Britain or the British Isles? And when somebody says "Ireland", do they mean both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or do they mean just one of those two? As a bonus question, what are each of these things categorized as (e.g., country, state)? :doh: And before you ask, no, geography was not my strongest subject in school.

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      I will let our illustrious British CPians correct me if I am wrong :)

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      When somebody says "Britain", do they mean Great Britain or the British Isles?

      Depends on that person's understanding :) But technically, 'Britain' is a synonym for the UK. For instance, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is commonly called the British PM.

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      And when somebody says "Ireland", do they mean both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or do they mean just one of those two?

      "Ireland" can mean The Republic of Ireland, or it can be used to refer to the entire island. Ireland is represented by a single, unified team in several sports. Cricket and Rugby come to mind.

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      As a bonus question, what are each of these things categorized as (e.g., country, state)?

      The UK is often considered a union of four* countries. Google for "countries within a country". * Or three, depending on whether you consider England and Wales separate or not, but let's not get into that :)

      Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        Now that I think about it, that romantic cruise (with a candlelit dinner, dancing, and star gazing) he suggested we go on was a bit odd...

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        Still cheaper than a girlfriend, right? ;P

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        • L Lost User

          Combined the UK and the Republic of Ireland are smaller than New Mexico. Does anybody really care what it's called or why? ;P ;P ;P ;P I mean as long as they keep making Guinness. ;)

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          And not forgetting; Irn-Bru!

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            See, we do a better job here... United States = Everything Continental United States = Everything except Alaska and Hawaii, cause they're out in the middle of nowhere (And Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house, dontchaknow!) North America = US, Canada, Mexico, and Greenland America = Just the US again, cause we kinda stole that term... The Canadians and Mexicans may never forgive us :)

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            AspDotNetDev
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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            United States

            UK.

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Continental United States

            Great Britain.

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Alaska and Hawaii

            Scotland and Wales.

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            North America

            British Isles.

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            America

            Britain. Guess we're not so different after all. :-D

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            • D DaveAuld

              And not forgetting; Irn-Bru!

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              Never heard of it... is it like haggis? :)

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              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                I will let our illustrious British CPians correct me if I am wrong :)

                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                When somebody says "Britain", do they mean Great Britain or the British Isles?

                Depends on that person's understanding :) But technically, 'Britain' is a synonym for the UK. For instance, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is commonly called the British PM.

                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                And when somebody says "Ireland", do they mean both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or do they mean just one of those two?

                "Ireland" can mean The Republic of Ireland, or it can be used to refer to the entire island. Ireland is represented by a single, unified team in several sports. Cricket and Rugby come to mind.

                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                As a bonus question, what are each of these things categorized as (e.g., country, state)?

                The UK is often considered a union of four* countries. Google for "countries within a country". * Or three, depending on whether you consider England and Wales separate or not, but let's not get into that :)

                Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                Most of the people that live in London believe that London is the UK and everything outside of the M25 is a strange, inhospitable land inhabited by Morlocks, dwarves, poor people and criminals. :)

                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                • L Lost User

                  Never heard of it... is it like haggis? :)

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                  Wash your mouth out..........with IRN-BRU to get rid of the taste of haggis X|

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    See, we do a better job here... United States = Everything Continental United States = Everything except Alaska and Hawaii, cause they're out in the middle of nowhere (And Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house, dontchaknow!) North America = US, Canada, Mexico, and Greenland America = Just the US again, cause we kinda stole that term... The Canadians and Mexicans may never forgive us :)

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                    Yusuf
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                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    America = Just the US again, cause we kinda stole that term... The Canadians and Mexicans, may never forgive us Who?

                    ftfy ;P

                    Yusuf May I help you?

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                    • L Lost User

                      Never heard of it... is it like haggis? :)

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                      DaveAuld
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                      I refer you to a previous discussion, just in case you missed it last time; IRN-Bru[^]

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        America = Just the US again, cause we kinda stole that term... The Canadians and Mexicans, may never forgive us Who?

                        ftfy ;P

                        Yusuf May I help you?

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        Yusuf wrote:

                        America

                        Yusuf wrote:

                        fy

                        America! F*** yeah!

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                          Yusuf wrote:

                          America

                          Yusuf wrote:

                          fy

                          America! F*** yeah!

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                          Yusuf
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                          :laugh:

                          Yusuf May I help you?

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            See, we do a better job here... United States = Everything Continental United States = Everything except Alaska and Hawaii, cause they're out in the middle of nowhere (And Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house, dontchaknow!) North America = US, Canada, Mexico, and Greenland America = Just the US again, cause we kinda stole that term... The Canadians and Mexicans may never forgive us :)

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            America = Just the US

                            No, all of the New World -- North, Central, and South America and various nearby islands, but most certainly not Hawaii and Guam.

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                            • A AspDotNetDev

                              Yusuf wrote:

                              America

                              Yusuf wrote:

                              fy

                              America! F*** yeah!

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                              Hilarious movie... Have it on DVD... Some of the songs are just awesome "I miss you more than Michael Bay missed the mark When he made Pearl Harbor. I miss you more than that movie missed the point. And that's an awful lot, girl. ... I need you more than Ben Affleck needs acting school. He was terrible in that film. I need you like Cuba Gooding Jr. needed a bigger part. He's way better than Ben Affleck, yeah... All I can think about is you And that ****ty movie too. Pearl Harbor sucked And I miss you."

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                                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                America = Just the US

                                No, all of the New World -- North, Central, and South America and various nearby islands, but most certainly not Hawaii and Guam.

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                                Ian Shlasko
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                                Wait, there's a SOUTH America? I thought everyone was just talking about Texas! :-D

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                                  Most of the people that live in London believe that London is the UK and everything outside of the M25 is a strange, inhospitable land inhabited by Morlocks, dwarves, poor people and criminals. :)

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  I had to google Morlock.

                                  digital man wrote:

                                  everything outside of the M25 is a strange, inhospitable land inhabited by Morlocks, dwarves, poor people and criminals.

                                  You forgot immigrants! :-D Jokes aside, I suppose immigrants form a greater proportion of London than any other British city? Leicester or Birmingham perhaps?

                                  Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    A friend said he and I should visit England and I wanted to see if that includes Ireland (it does not)... surprising how confusing the British Isles are. Thanks to this page, I think I'm finally starting to understand it:

                                    • Great Britain includes Scotland, Wales, and England.
                                    • The UK includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
                                    • The British Isles includes the UK, the Republic of Ireland, and a few smaller islands.

                                    Now, some questions for you, er, British Isles folk. When somebody says "Britain", do they mean Great Britain or the British Isles? And when somebody says "Ireland", do they mean both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, or do they mean just one of those two? As a bonus question, what are each of these things categorized as (e.g., country, state)? :doh: And before you ask, no, geography was not my strongest subject in school.

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                                    The Great British Venn Diagram http://qntm.org/uk[^]

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                                      Wash your mouth out..........with IRN-BRU to get rid of the taste of haggis X|

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                                      And replace it with the taste of dirty socks and mold. Went to Embra a few years ago and everyone says ohh you must try the Irn Bru blah blah blah. Well I mostly drank beer and whisky the whole weekend. So I'm in the airport waiting for my flight back to Boston and I look in one of the shops and I see Irn-Bru 32! X|

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                                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                        I had to google Morlock.

                                        digital man wrote:

                                        everything outside of the M25 is a strange, inhospitable land inhabited by Morlocks, dwarves, poor people and criminals.

                                        You forgot immigrants! :-D Jokes aside, I suppose immigrants form a greater proportion of London than any other British city? Leicester or Birmingham perhaps?

                                        Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                                        AspDotNetDev
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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                        I had to google Morlock.

                                        :wtf: And you call yourself an Eloi!? Shameful!

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                                          The Great British Venn Diagram http://qntm.org/uk[^]

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                                          That's awesome! :thumbsup:

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