What a president of the past did to corporate criminals
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That's because that was an illegal, dictatorial action by Roosevelt.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
That's because that's was an illegal, dictatorial action by Roosevelt.
No, the seizure of Montgomery Ward's plant was made under the War Labor Disputes Act 1943, and upheld by the US Court of Appeals. As Commander-in-Chief of the US Army, I assume the President has the authority to command his troops to remove the CEO? I would have thought a civilian agency to have been more proper, but there was a War on, and this guy was being obstructive.
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9551335[^] I don't think we'll ever see this.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
That's because that's was an illegal, dictatorial action by Roosevelt.
No, the seizure of Montgomery Ward's plant was made under the War Labor Disputes Act 1943, and upheld by the US Court of Appeals. As Commander-in-Chief of the US Army, I assume the President has the authority to command his troops to remove the CEO? I would have thought a civilian agency to have been more proper, but there was a War on, and this guy was being obstructive.
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
Wrong! Failure of Due Process. Failure under Unreasonable Search and Seizure. The War Labor Disputes Act of 1943 was most certainly unconstitutional then and would certainly fail in the courts today.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
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That's because that was an illegal, dictatorial action by Roosevelt.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
modified on Friday, February 4, 2011 2:28 PM
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Wrong! Failure of Due Process. Failure under Unreasonable Search and Seizure. The War Labor Disputes Act of 1943 was most certainly unconstitutional then and would certainly fail in the courts today.
"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"
ahmed zahmed wrote:
The War Labor Disputes Act of 1943 was most certainly unconstitutional then
A US District Court ruled that the President did not have the right to to seize the factory, but this was reversed on appeal. The US Supreme Court dismissed the case as moot, President Truman having, by then, terminated the seizure.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Failure of Due Process. Failure under Unreasonable Search and Seizure.
Presumably considered by the US Court of Appeal - I leave the determination of this to you, as an exercise.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
and would certainly fail in the courts today
Which is irrelevant to what happened during WW2. "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9551335[^] I don't think we'll ever see this.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
wolfbinary wrote:
I don't think we'll ever see this.
It does seem unlikely. People with money and power(they pretty much go together) have a much different relationship to the law than you or I. Whether it's war crimes or crashing the economy, it's "Look forward, not back". Maybe if I rob an armored car of $40 million my lawyer can argue that we need to look forward and I will get the charges dismissed. :)
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No. ;P
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
The War Labor Disputes Act of 1943 was most certainly unconstitutional then
A US District Court ruled that the President did not have the right to to seize the factory, but this was reversed on appeal. The US Supreme Court dismissed the case as moot, President Truman having, by then, terminated the seizure.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Failure of Due Process. Failure under Unreasonable Search and Seizure.
Presumably considered by the US Court of Appeal - I leave the determination of this to you, as an exercise.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
and would certainly fail in the courts today
Which is irrelevant to what happened during WW2. "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
ict558 wrote:
President Truman having, by then, terminated the seizure
Because it was illegal in the first place, you dolt!
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ict558 wrote:
President Truman having, by then, terminated the seizure
Because it was illegal in the first place, you dolt!
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
Because it was illegal in the first place
Japan formally surrendered September 2, 1945, ending WW2. At the end of WW2, all seizures had to be terminated. The Montgomery Ward seizure was terminated in October, 1945.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
you dolt
You're too kind.
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
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Apparently he missed the fact that FDR had him arrested not sentenced.
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wolfbinary wrote:
Apparently he missed the fact that FDR had him arrested not sentencedschool.
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