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  • L Lost User

    If you're in a salaried position where you can work autonomously most of the time, then there should be nothing wrong in taking naps (or long lunch breaks, coming in and leaving when you want to) as long as the work allocated to you gets done in the required timescale. It's a trust thing, though. Especially in larger companies, they worry as some people would certainly take advantage by napping all day, partying all night, then fighting against dismissal by claiming it was encouraged by the company having a nap room. Now, if they had a bonking room ...

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    _Maxxx_ wrote:

    Now, if they had a bonking room ...

    There's no need for one, my Missus and I have done it at 3 of my last 5 work places. Need to cross this current place off the list so I am at 80%.

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    • L Lost User

      This is a well known medical condition called KLB[^]

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      Guilty! I mean, er, infected. Uh, symptomatic?

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      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

        Actually, studies show that a 10-15 minute nap is a real performance boost for an 8 hour work day. Of course, it varies between individuals. Some need it, some don't. To pull a 12 hour work day, a short nap decides if my last 2 hours are going to be productive or not.

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        Lilith C
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        Somewhere I read that the human body was actually designed to sleep twice a day albeit one of those periods is an hour or so after noon. The problem is that society has driven us with a work ethic. At an internal development workshop I went to I learned that sleeping on the job is considered insubordination. Looks like I'll have to be more careful when I work through lunch. I'm a 1:00 AM to 7:00 AM sleeper but if I can grab a nap at lunch in my car I do it even though I'd rather be reading a technical book (or a comic.)

        I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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        • H HimanshuJoshi

          No nap-room here. Although, cubilce is fairly large so I can doze off if I want to, but I generally don't.

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          Hmm, Bedroom is approx 3ft from the office...

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          • A AspDotNetDev

            No I haven't. That is just the way I have always been (at least as far as I can remember). I usually need about 9.5 hours to feel fully rested. If a few hours is taken off that, I drag through the day.

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            Tom Chantler
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            Good luck if you ever have kids! I am in an awesome mood today because I actually got eight hours sleep last night. That's my longest ever sleep since my daughter was born last March!

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            • T Tom Chantler

              Good luck if you ever have kids! I am in an awesome mood today because I actually got eight hours sleep last night. That's my longest ever sleep since my daughter was born last March!

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              TomChantler wrote:

              Good luck if you ever have kids!

              I intend to avoid that. I wouldn't survive the first week. ;P

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                Straw poll: how many of you have a nap room or take naps at work? 5-vote this post if there be sleeping at your work, 1-vote this post if there's no :baaaa!: for your cow-orkers. When I worked for a startup company, we had a nap room, and it was glorious. Now that I work for a bigger company, it seems like something like that wouldn't fly (instead, I just doze off at my desk after lunch). Though, I have a fairly large cubicle, so I'm thinking of bringing in a cot, pillow, and blanket. EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

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                AndrewPurdon
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                I voted 3. One of our offices has nothing of the sort - the other has a sick bay that employees can use to have a nap in the event of a real long shift. current project has seen us work from 9 am till 4 am several times a week, with the occasional all-nighter thrown in for good measure. On sleeping patterns, apparently there is a technique where you can train yourself to fall into REM very quickly. Supposedly you only need 2h of REM a day, and once trained, you can pretty much fall into it instantly. then, you just have a 20 min nap every 4h and you get the full amount of rest you need each day! i'd love to try it, but current work/lifestyle doesn't permit it. the idea of only sleeping 2h a day does appeal though! then i'd only be at work 75% of my awake hours, not 95%!

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                • L Lost User

                  I put an idea into the suggestion scheme at work to have one, but it was denied. Power naps are very good for you, and having a power nap and a coffee can boost mental performance by quite a lot. Power napping can also undo the damage of a disrupted nights sleep. I've worked with quite a few old fellas who doze off at their desks after lunch. And a girl I know who is a journalist, there is a bloke in her office who every lunchtime gets out a sleeping bag and goes to sleep under his desk for half an hour, feet sticking out and everything.

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                  ChrisElston wrote:

                  there is a bloke in her office who every lunchtime gets out a sleeping bag and goes to sleep under his desk for half an hour, feet sticking out and everything.

                  He goes into his sleeping bag head first?

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                  • A AndrewPurdon

                    I voted 3. One of our offices has nothing of the sort - the other has a sick bay that employees can use to have a nap in the event of a real long shift. current project has seen us work from 9 am till 4 am several times a week, with the occasional all-nighter thrown in for good measure. On sleeping patterns, apparently there is a technique where you can train yourself to fall into REM very quickly. Supposedly you only need 2h of REM a day, and once trained, you can pretty much fall into it instantly. then, you just have a 20 min nap every 4h and you get the full amount of rest you need each day! i'd love to try it, but current work/lifestyle doesn't permit it. the idea of only sleeping 2h a day does appeal though! then i'd only be at work 75% of my awake hours, not 95%!

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                    Napping can also be a time for Hijinks :laugh: http://my.opera.com/TenSigmaPlatinumBeltNinja/blog/2011/01/26/great-ways-to-wake-up-the-sleeper-in-your-office?cid=54005001#comment54005001[^]

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Straw poll: how many of you have a nap room or take naps at work? 5-vote this post if there be sleeping at your work, 1-vote this post if there's no :baaaa!: for your cow-orkers. When I worked for a startup company, we had a nap room, and it was glorious. Now that I work for a bigger company, it seems like something like that wouldn't fly (instead, I just doze off at my desk after lunch). Though, I have a fairly large cubicle, so I'm thinking of bringing in a cot, pillow, and blanket. EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

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                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                      In the past when I've been in cubicle city not having anywhere to crash out for half an hour at lunchtime when I really needed it was a real pain. I can't speak for anyone else, but when I'm tired enough to want to do that (which happens more than I'd care to admit if I have to commute) not being able to really kills my productivity. I'm honestly surprised more employers don't realise how much productivity they must be wasting by not providing staff with such facilities These days it's not so much of an issue for me as I have a room with a double bed 30 ft from my office (OK, so it's a home office... :-\ ).

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                      • M Member 4593559

                        Napping can also be a time for Hijinks :laugh: http://my.opera.com/TenSigmaPlatinumBeltNinja/blog/2011/01/26/great-ways-to-wake-up-the-sleeper-in-your-office?cid=54005001#comment54005001[^]

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                        glennPattonWork3
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                        At least they don't have my Bosses favourite if you start snoring you get some object (typically a molex psu header chucked at you) mind you with flex time that is not very lightly!

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                        • L Lost User

                          This is a well known medical condition called KLB[^]

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                          Ahh, then it must be related to a DAU DAU definition /dow/ [German Fidonet] Dümmster Anzunehmender User. A German acronym for stupidest imaginable user. From the engineering-slang GAU for Größter Anzunehmender Unfall (worst foreseeable accident), especially of a LNG tank farm plant or something with similarly disastrous consequences. In popular German, GAU is used only to refer to worst-case nuclear accidents such as a core meltdown.

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Straw poll: how many of you have a nap room or take naps at work? 5-vote this post if there be sleeping at your work, 1-vote this post if there's no :baaaa!: for your cow-orkers. When I worked for a startup company, we had a nap room, and it was glorious. Now that I work for a bigger company, it seems like something like that wouldn't fly (instead, I just doze off at my desk after lunch). Though, I have a fairly large cubicle, so I'm thinking of bringing in a cot, pillow, and blanket. EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

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                            AbdullaMohammad
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                            Hi! I used to work a place where I felt like sleeping right after lunch, in that firm there was "free" lunch. The lunch was quite nice and "heavy". That was infact my first place of work right after studies. Now I have worked many places and never felt this urge to sleep right after lunch. I have come to the conclusion that the reason why I felt like this after lunch was because of the food that was served at that firm.

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                              Hi! I used to work a place where I felt like sleeping right after lunch, in that firm there was "free" lunch. The lunch was quite nice and "heavy". That was infact my first place of work right after studies. Now I have worked many places and never felt this urge to sleep right after lunch. I have come to the conclusion that the reason why I felt like this after lunch was because of the food that was served at that firm.

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                              I've been suffering recently from overwhelming drowsiness in the afternoon at my work desk. If I let myself I could slip right into a sleep - still sitting up - and once or twice my head has nodded and I panic wake up as I realise sleep is imminent. It feels like a sign of weakness to succumb to this - visble to colleagues who while they might even sometimes feel drowsy too - would still love to attack this point of vulnerability when exhibited in others. Here's what has helped: - I've stopped eating at the Thai restaurant at lunch, instead I bring in sandwiches and an apple and maybe some yoghurt. The lighter meal has stopped the onset of drowsiness. - If I am feeling sleepy in the morning (or had a late night) I drive my car round to the back of a warehouse, recline the seat back and go to sleep for about 30 minutes at lunch. It helps a lot. Set the alarm on your phone to wake up so that you don't need to keep checking the time. - You can also go to the bathroom and splash face with cold water if desperate. - If really desperate - have another coffee and load it with sugar. But the worst thing is not being able to just have a nap. If you can, it is bliss.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Wow - 7 hours of sleep and you're dozing off ? Have you thought about seeing a doctor about your sleep issues ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                JoeRPGMast
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                                The amount of sleep required by a person to feel fully rested (assuming you get all of your sleep in 1 large chunk) makes a very nice bell curve with about 2% of people needing less than 4 hours and 2% needing about 12 hours. People on the left side tend to call people on the right lazy, but it isn't something controllable or trainable. Most of the evidence points to it being a nature rather than nurture type of thing. I fall in the 9-hour category, which didn't leave me as much time as I liked in my day, so I moved over to the Uberman sleep schedule. I was able to do this because I work at a small company whose conference room now doubles as my nap room. -- TM

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  Straw poll: how many of you have a nap room or take naps at work? 5-vote this post if there be sleeping at your work, 1-vote this post if there's no :baaaa!: for your cow-orkers. When I worked for a startup company, we had a nap room, and it was glorious. Now that I work for a bigger company, it seems like something like that wouldn't fly (instead, I just doze off at my desk after lunch). Though, I have a fairly large cubicle, so I'm thinking of bringing in a cot, pillow, and blanket. EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

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                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

                                  That only happens from votes to remove, not 1 votes.... I've never done it, but one of my coworkers naps in his car over lunch sometimes when the weather is nice...

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    One assumes a nap room is needed when people pull all nighters, not for an 8 hour work day ?

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                                    A 15 minute nap just after lunch is proven to increase productivity and awareness. That's because we humans were designed to have two sleep periods, the regular one at night and another just after noon. But modern day life does not allow that and pretty much everyone feels sleepy about that time of the day. The 15 minute nap is just enough to pass through REM sleep (4th stage of the sleep cycles) and reach the 1st stage of sleep which you're barely asleep. Waking up on that stage will make you wake up aware, ready and refreshened. One technique is to take a cup of coffee a few minutes before (don't remember how many) the nap, so it kicks in after 15 minutes of nap. I wish I had a link to an article, but if you google around, you'll find plenty of evidence supporting what I am saying.

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                                    • A AspDotNetDev

                                      Straw poll: how many of you have a nap room or take naps at work? 5-vote this post if there be sleeping at your work, 1-vote this post if there's no :baaaa!: for your cow-orkers. When I worked for a startup company, we had a nap room, and it was glorious. Now that I work for a bigger company, it seems like something like that wouldn't fly (instead, I just doze off at my desk after lunch). Though, I have a fairly large cubicle, so I'm thinking of bringing in a cot, pillow, and blanket. EDIT: After 10 1-votes, might be good for somebody to 5-vote this post before it gets automatically removed. Thanks, looks like I have an upvote.

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                                      Fabio Franco
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                                      I wish I had, I never worked at a place which provided that. And I think it's supid not to, due to the overwhelming sutudies supporting that. It's not work time loss, it's productivity gain. As some already mentioned, and as I already mentioned on a reponse on this topic: "A 15 minute nap just after lunch is proven to increase productivity and awareness. That's because we humans were designed to have two sleep periods, the regular one at night and another just after noon. But modern day life does not allow that and pretty much everyone feels sleepy about that time of the day. The 15 minute nap is just enough to pass through REM sleep (4th stage of the sleep cycles) and reach the 1st stage of sleep which you're barely asleep. Waking up on that stage will make you wake up aware, ready and refreshened. One technique is to take a cup of coffee a few minutes before (don't remember how many) the nap, so it kicks in after 15 minutes of nap. I wish I had a link to an article, but if you google around, you'll find plenty of evidence supporting what I am saying."

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        One assumes a nap room is needed when people pull all nighters, not for an 8 hour work day ?

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Edgar Prieto
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                                        When I used to work for a korean company they usually eat in 15 minutes, then turn off most lights, and all the office became a nap room you could see all koreans drooling on their keyboards, all of them from managers to janitors ...

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                                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                          Once, at military school in 10th grade, I fell asleep in Military Science class. I had to stand for the remained of the class. I have never fallen asleep on duty since. Get more sleep at night, your getting paid to work.

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                                          rwinte
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                                          You're getting paid to work, but if you're on salary taking a nap shouldn't matter. I imagine that most developers don't work 8-5 or 9-5 and taking 20 minutes to nap would probably no effect on how much time they spend working.

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