Jaded vs Refined
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Tastebuds are less effective as you grow older. That is why tastes that were overbearing when you were younger become tolerable as you age. Congratulations -- you are officially old. :rolleyes:
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I've noticed with the passing of many years that my tastes, particularly regarding food, have changed dramatically. I can recall, with some measure of residual horror, my first taste of capsicum - peppers, that is - and find it amazing that I now regard any dish without peppers as bland. When I was first introduced to peppers, I was fairly certain that Dad was trying to kill me. Similarly, my first introduction to beer fell flat, if you'll forgive the pun. From an objective viewpoint, beer tastes nasty. It's bitter, has an odd and unpleasant odor (especially on the way back up the windpipe, a few hours later), and causes flatulence - both oral and anal. It's definitely an acquired taste. Scotch tastes like liquid fire to a kid, then settles down to an aftertaste of hemlock tea. Or maybe kerosene... So I wonder - did I gain something - refinement - with age, or lose something - jaded - along the way? With my habits, did I gain an appreciation of the finer things in life? Or did I just kill off enough taste buds to require stronger stimuli to generate a visceral response? Whatcha think?
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I've noticed with the passing of many years that my tastes, particularly regarding food, have changed dramatically. I can recall, with some measure of residual horror, my first taste of capsicum - peppers, that is - and find it amazing that I now regard any dish without peppers as bland. When I was first introduced to peppers, I was fairly certain that Dad was trying to kill me. Similarly, my first introduction to beer fell flat, if you'll forgive the pun. From an objective viewpoint, beer tastes nasty. It's bitter, has an odd and unpleasant odor (especially on the way back up the windpipe, a few hours later), and causes flatulence - both oral and anal. It's definitely an acquired taste. Scotch tastes like liquid fire to a kid, then settles down to an aftertaste of hemlock tea. Or maybe kerosene... So I wonder - did I gain something - refinement - with age, or lose something - jaded - along the way? With my habits, did I gain an appreciation of the finer things in life? Or did I just kill off enough taste buds to require stronger stimuli to generate a visceral response? Whatcha think?
Will Rogers never met me.
Children have more sensitive taste buds, they dull with age, that's why we start to like sharper tasting foods. So I've read.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I've noticed with the passing of many years that my tastes, particularly regarding food, have changed dramatically. I can recall, with some measure of residual horror, my first taste of capsicum - peppers, that is - and find it amazing that I now regard any dish without peppers as bland. When I was first introduced to peppers, I was fairly certain that Dad was trying to kill me. Similarly, my first introduction to beer fell flat, if you'll forgive the pun. From an objective viewpoint, beer tastes nasty. It's bitter, has an odd and unpleasant odor (especially on the way back up the windpipe, a few hours later), and causes flatulence - both oral and anal. It's definitely an acquired taste. Scotch tastes like liquid fire to a kid, then settles down to an aftertaste of hemlock tea. Or maybe kerosene... So I wonder - did I gain something - refinement - with age, or lose something - jaded - along the way? With my habits, did I gain an appreciation of the finer things in life? Or did I just kill off enough taste buds to require stronger stimuli to generate a visceral response? Whatcha think?
Will Rogers never met me.
It's indeed an acquired vs. intrinsic taste. Intrinsic taste is the lizard brain: pleasure feedback for calories, sweet and umami for sugar and calories, salt for minerals and the nervous system; hot sour and bitter to protect against bad food. Intrinsic taste is what makes a McDonalds triple meal so immensely gratifying.* Acquired taste is a cortex thing, two actually: first, connecting tastes to memories, second watching your body's reaction to the different tastes. A good whiskey of course tastes like a kerosene-soaked tar pit, but watching the tastes unfold on your tongue, the liquid fire rushing down your throat leaving a not entirely non-flowery bouquet is a great pleasure to experience. That, and the stupor, which agian can be enjoyed by the lizard brain. But then, I prefer the next days great-whiskey-cloud over the *) There is at least one study actually that showed for most overweight / obese people, that pleasure feedback appears actually less than average
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It's indeed an acquired vs. intrinsic taste. Intrinsic taste is the lizard brain: pleasure feedback for calories, sweet and umami for sugar and calories, salt for minerals and the nervous system; hot sour and bitter to protect against bad food. Intrinsic taste is what makes a McDonalds triple meal so immensely gratifying.* Acquired taste is a cortex thing, two actually: first, connecting tastes to memories, second watching your body's reaction to the different tastes. A good whiskey of course tastes like a kerosene-soaked tar pit, but watching the tastes unfold on your tongue, the liquid fire rushing down your throat leaving a not entirely non-flowery bouquet is a great pleasure to experience. That, and the stupor, which agian can be enjoyed by the lizard brain. But then, I prefer the next days great-whiskey-cloud over the *) There is at least one study actually that showed for most overweight / obese people, that pleasure feedback appears actually less than average
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchyI totally agree! It has nothing to do with age. Nothing. I remember the exact circumstances when I acquired a life lasting (well until now, I ain't dead yet) love for XXXL-plus hot food. And I was 14 at the time! Also I remember when I stopped hating whiskey X| , but have no time to describe it. Gotta open a new bottle.
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Children have more sensitive taste buds, they dull with age, that's why we start to like sharper tasting foods. So I've read.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Counterexample: Kids can go crazy for sugary sweets that would make an adult barf, so it can't be just decay. Most of what we colloquially call taste is actually smell, both senses do decay with age, but significantly more important are changes.
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I've noticed with the passing of many years that my tastes, particularly regarding food, have changed dramatically. I can recall, with some measure of residual horror, my first taste of capsicum - peppers, that is - and find it amazing that I now regard any dish without peppers as bland. When I was first introduced to peppers, I was fairly certain that Dad was trying to kill me. Similarly, my first introduction to beer fell flat, if you'll forgive the pun. From an objective viewpoint, beer tastes nasty. It's bitter, has an odd and unpleasant odor (especially on the way back up the windpipe, a few hours later), and causes flatulence - both oral and anal. It's definitely an acquired taste. Scotch tastes like liquid fire to a kid, then settles down to an aftertaste of hemlock tea. Or maybe kerosene... So I wonder - did I gain something - refinement - with age, or lose something - jaded - along the way? With my habits, did I gain an appreciation of the finer things in life? Or did I just kill off enough taste buds to require stronger stimuli to generate a visceral response? Whatcha think?
Will Rogers never met me.
Kids have notoriously bland tastes with the exception of sweet. What to an adult is a rich, deep, sauce, tastes like dog turd to a kid. So, apart for your list: Coriander leaf (first taste it is truly the most repugnant of herbs, but with conditioning is superb) Salami Olives Cheese Blue Cheese Chillies and any hot food
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
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I've noticed with the passing of many years that my tastes, particularly regarding food, have changed dramatically. I can recall, with some measure of residual horror, my first taste of capsicum - peppers, that is - and find it amazing that I now regard any dish without peppers as bland. When I was first introduced to peppers, I was fairly certain that Dad was trying to kill me. Similarly, my first introduction to beer fell flat, if you'll forgive the pun. From an objective viewpoint, beer tastes nasty. It's bitter, has an odd and unpleasant odor (especially on the way back up the windpipe, a few hours later), and causes flatulence - both oral and anal. It's definitely an acquired taste. Scotch tastes like liquid fire to a kid, then settles down to an aftertaste of hemlock tea. Or maybe kerosene... So I wonder - did I gain something - refinement - with age, or lose something - jaded - along the way? With my habits, did I gain an appreciation of the finer things in life? Or did I just kill off enough taste buds to require stronger stimuli to generate a visceral response? Whatcha think?
Will Rogers never met me.
If you smoke I'd say it's the taste buds that died a horrible death. If you don't smoke than I'd say it's an acquired taste.
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Kids have notoriously bland tastes with the exception of sweet. What to an adult is a rich, deep, sauce, tastes like dog turd to a kid. So, apart for your list: Coriander leaf (first taste it is truly the most repugnant of herbs, but with conditioning is superb) Salami Olives Cheese Blue Cheese Chillies and any hot food
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
I think often kids are reared on bland foods, so have no chance to acquire the taste until later. My son's been into Olives since 3 years (he's 7 now), loves garlic seasoning, is quite fond of milder curries. Nowadays though, its much harder getting him to try new things, so I guess there's a sweet spot for introducing them to a range of foods before its too late. ps.
fat_boy wrote:
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation."
Maybe that's because, inspite of everything, we are still part of the natural world. I think it's possibly a religious thing that makes people think we are separate from the rest of nature. Of course our depravations look like a natural variation. We are animals after all.
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It's indeed an acquired vs. intrinsic taste. Intrinsic taste is the lizard brain: pleasure feedback for calories, sweet and umami for sugar and calories, salt for minerals and the nervous system; hot sour and bitter to protect against bad food. Intrinsic taste is what makes a McDonalds triple meal so immensely gratifying.* Acquired taste is a cortex thing, two actually: first, connecting tastes to memories, second watching your body's reaction to the different tastes. A good whiskey of course tastes like a kerosene-soaked tar pit, but watching the tastes unfold on your tongue, the liquid fire rushing down your throat leaving a not entirely non-flowery bouquet is a great pleasure to experience. That, and the stupor, which agian can be enjoyed by the lizard brain. But then, I prefer the next days great-whiskey-cloud over the *) There is at least one study actually that showed for most overweight / obese people, that pleasure feedback appears actually less than average
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| FoldWithUs! | sighist | WhoIncludes - Analyzing C++ include file hierarchypeterchen wrote:
*) There is at least one study actually that showed for most overweight / obese people, that pleasure feedback appears actually less than average
Possibly the problem, if it makes them take in more to get their "fix".
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