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  • G Gregory Gadow

    My understanding is that the chief target of Shiva is ignorance. Anyway, I don't so much want a being of destruction as one of chaos and evil, which Shiva is not.

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    dan sh
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    Gregory.Gadow wrote:

    chaos and evil

    Try these[^] then.

    "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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    • G Gregory Gadow

      My understanding is that Kali Yuga means "the time of Kali" and would be better used for the aftermath of the impact, not the asteroid itself. Regarding why religion, that's why I offered some of the backstory: to explain how the name came to be widely used around the planet. Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

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      HimanshuJoshi
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      Gregory.Gadow wrote:

      My understanding is thath, i Yuga means "the time of Kali"

      And that started when Lord Krishna left earth around 5000 years ago according to Vishnu-purana. It means dark times when sins such as lying, cheating is more common. Kali represents the all the evil that is in earth.

      Gregory.Gadow wrote:

      Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

      I know that these things have been borrowed from religions and traditions, but my point is that if you really don't want to piss any religion, then use made up words.

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      • G Gregory Gadow

        I will look into those, thanks for the suggestion.

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        HimanshuJoshi
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        Those won't be historically accurate, since they are daemons which affect Sun and Moon and cause Eclipses according to hindu mythology. So if you are going for something matching along the lines of hindu mythologic accuracy, I suggest you to stick to Kali or Kali yuga.

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          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

          My understanding is thath, i Yuga means "the time of Kali"

          And that started when Lord Krishna left earth around 5000 years ago according to Vishnu-purana. It means dark times when sins such as lying, cheating is more common. Kali represents the all the evil that is in earth.

          Gregory.Gadow wrote:

          Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

          I know that these things have been borrowed from religions and traditions, but my point is that if you really don't want to piss any religion, then use made up words.

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          Dalek Dave
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          Or he could use Sutekh, Ancient Egyptian God of Deserts and Storms, very apt. And not too many ancient egyptians around these days.

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            Or he could use Sutekh, Ancient Egyptian God of Deserts and Storms, very apt. And not too many ancient egyptians around these days.

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            HimanshuJoshi
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            yeah and if any of them are here all of them would be busy partying off their new found freedom.

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            • H HimanshuJoshi

              yeah and if any of them are here all of them would be busy partying off their new found freedom.

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              Dalek Dave
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              They couldn't afford to party, they all lost their money on an illegal pyramid scheme!

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                Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                chaos and evil

                Try these[^] then.

                "Your code will never work, Luc's always will.", Richard MacCutchan[^]

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                Gregory Gadow
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                That will be helpful, thanks!

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  I can't help with the names, but scientifically speaking, any bolide of significant size would cause such desruction as to be then end of civilisation. Impactor of 1km at the shallow angle would slam into the sea causing a megatsunami, plus uplift of many billions of tons of material, the larger stuff being ballistic and impacting over most of the hemisphere, and a resultant nuclear winter. A ten meter bolide has the energy of the Hiroshima bomb, so start scaling up from there. I would suggest your impactor should be several 'small scale impacts' (5 to 10 meters) over a wide area, and one larger one,(say 100 meters) with an oceanic landing, but on continental shelf, that way the damage, whilst spectacular, is not an extintion event. Barringer Crater was a 50 meter bolide, imagine that in New York, or, preferably, Paris. However, clever use of names. The Kaali Bolide hit Estonia about 2700 years ago.see here[^]. It was only a little one, but interesting, don't you think.

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                  Soulus83
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                  Remember what happened at Tunguska!!! ;P

                  "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                    Remember what happened at Tunguska!!! ;P

                    "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--either way, you are right." — Henry Ford

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Mulder nearly died!

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Ur:anus was originally called Ge:orge

                      FTFY!

                      "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams "Let me get this straight. You know her. She knows you. But she wants to eat him. And everybody's okay with this?"

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Why the colons?

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                        Why the colons?

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                        Because Ur:anus has a colon?

                        [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                          Because Ur:anus has a colon?

                          [WikiLeaks Cablegate Cables]

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Oh dear! 5!

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                          • H HimanshuJoshi

                            People will confuse Kali[^] with Ka:li:[^], better you name him by his full name "Kali Yuga"; which is basically the current age of Mankind and we are on the verge of it's start only. But if you want to go full science fictional why bother with taking names from religions? Invent some names that sounds like science fiction, not mythology.

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                            HimanshuJoshi wrote:

                            Invent some names that sounds like science fiction, not mythology.

                            Better yet, have the UN hold a 50/50 lottery. $10 and you can put in your entry for the name. Then have the winning entry be something ridiculously inappropriate.

                            There is water at the bottom of the ocean. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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                            • G Gregory Gadow

                              My understanding is that Kali Yuga means "the time of Kali" and would be better used for the aftermath of the impact, not the asteroid itself. Regarding why religion, that's why I offered some of the backstory: to explain how the name came to be widely used around the planet. Anyway, religious names are commonly used for such things, and borrowings from Greek, Roman and Judeo-Christian traditions - Apophis, Nemesis and so on - have been pretty overused.

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar
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                              Kali, with both syllables short is the demon, of Kali Yug infamy; Kali, phonetically Kaa-lee, is the name of the goddess. They are rendered differently in Devanagari, transliteration into English is a pain.

                              Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                                Kali, with both syllables short is the demon, of Kali Yug infamy; Kali, phonetically Kaa-lee, is the name of the goddess. They are rendered differently in Devanagari, transliteration into English is a pain.

                                Cheers, विक्रम (Have gone past my troika - 4 CCCs!) "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                                Gregory Gadow
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                                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                They are rendered differently in Devanagari, transliteration into English is a pain.

                                Which is why I used Ka:li: for the goddess; I didn't think that the macrons would render properly :)

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                                • G Gregory Gadow

                                  And I suspect there are quite a few of you. :-D Among other things, I am an aspiring science fiction writer. Right now I'm taking a break from my novel to flesh out my "future history" and I want to make sure my choice of names isn't too offensive. Towards the end of 2137, an asteroid is discovered on an impact trajectory with Earth. It is big - aproximately 13.8 km in diameter, bigger than the Chixulub meteor - and had been missed by reconnaisance projects because it had sling-shotted around the sun and was heading outwards, a direction we simply never bothered to watch. An article in the Times of India compares the asteroid to the demon Kali (not to be confused with the goddess Ka:li: ), a figure in Hinduism whose arrival marks the last age of existence before everything starts over again. An interplanetary freighter is fitted with several large missiles and named Kalki, the incarnation of Vishnu who will defeat Kali. Both the missiles and a later crash of the freighter itself into the asteroid fail either to shatter it or significantly alter its course. The asteroid impacts on Dec. 13 (which by an unplanned happy coincidence is a Friday) at a very oblique angle and breaks into three pieces. The two larger ones "bounce" off the atmosphere and sail safely away; the third makes a dramatic fireball over Brazil and Peru and lands in the Pacific about 90 km off the coast of Ecuador, slowed enough and sufficiently vaporized that the splash it not noticeable on Ecuador's beaches. This is a key part of my history, as it convinces Earth's governments to work together towards interstellar space travel. Before I commit myself to these names, I would appreciate some feedback.

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                                  +5 for your history :)

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Bruce Willis will be playing the lead role in the movie, right? Right?

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    As much as I enjoy Bruce's performances (the Die Hard series never gets old for me), if the movie version includes the lady with red hair from the 5th Element movie, I'll pay real money to see it. Of course, I'll pay a lot more for a private audience...

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    • G Gregory Gadow

                                      And I suspect there are quite a few of you. :-D Among other things, I am an aspiring science fiction writer. Right now I'm taking a break from my novel to flesh out my "future history" and I want to make sure my choice of names isn't too offensive. Towards the end of 2137, an asteroid is discovered on an impact trajectory with Earth. It is big - aproximately 13.8 km in diameter, bigger than the Chixulub meteor - and had been missed by reconnaisance projects because it had sling-shotted around the sun and was heading outwards, a direction we simply never bothered to watch. An article in the Times of India compares the asteroid to the demon Kali (not to be confused with the goddess Ka:li: ), a figure in Hinduism whose arrival marks the last age of existence before everything starts over again. An interplanetary freighter is fitted with several large missiles and named Kalki, the incarnation of Vishnu who will defeat Kali. Both the missiles and a later crash of the freighter itself into the asteroid fail either to shatter it or significantly alter its course. The asteroid impacts on Dec. 13 (which by an unplanned happy coincidence is a Friday) at a very oblique angle and breaks into three pieces. The two larger ones "bounce" off the atmosphere and sail safely away; the third makes a dramatic fireball over Brazil and Peru and lands in the Pacific about 90 km off the coast of Ecuador, slowed enough and sufficiently vaporized that the splash it not noticeable on Ecuador's beaches. This is a key part of my history, as it convinces Earth's governments to work together towards interstellar space travel. Before I commit myself to these names, I would appreciate some feedback.

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                                      Roger Wright
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                                      Have you considered looking in the General Indian Topics forum? Chris, et all, built that space in part, to assist our Indian members in developing their storytelling skills in the English language without the harsh criticism found in the open forums. You being a storyteller, that might be a good place to look for ideas and technical assistance. Just a thought... :)

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      • G Gregory Gadow

                                        I've thought about this myself :-D When discovered, the asteroid was about 13 km in diameter; the two efforts to break it up still left it just over 10 km. It hit the atmosphere at a very oblique angle and broke apart, with most of the asteroid ricocheting back into space on safe trajectories. The one major piece that did impact the surface traveled almost 2000 km before landing in the Pacific, which should be more than enough time to lose most of its mass and velocity. That isn't to say that there was no aftermath, though: the heat added to the air from that fragment wreaked havoc with weather patterns for decades, large areas of the Brazil was destroyed by the shock wave from the concussive impact and many of those who survived watching the fragment go overhead were deafend by the blast. It wasn't a "thank goodness it missed us" event by any stretch. Like I said, the purpose is to make the people of Terra very anxious that all of humanity's eggs are in one stellar basket.

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                                        Even at a very oblique angle a big rock is going to make it down intact http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=100&diam=10000&pdens=1500&pdens_select=0&vel=17&theta=1&tdens=1000&tdens_select=1000[^] Even with porus rock a 10km impactor is going to deliver 20,000,000 megatons. With something that big the only thing an extremely low inclination will do is to enlarge the scorch zone as it enters the atmosphere.

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                                          Even at a very oblique angle a big rock is going to make it down intact http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=100&diam=10000&pdens=1500&pdens_select=0&vel=17&theta=1&tdens=1000&tdens_select=1000[^] Even with porus rock a 10km impactor is going to deliver 20,000,000 megatons. With something that big the only thing an extremely low inclination will do is to enlarge the scorch zone as it enters the atmosphere.

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                                          Gregory Gadow
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                                          That will be very helpful in figuring things out, thanks! As I put in the OP, though, the asteroid breaks up when it hits the atmosphere and most of it ricochets back out into space; what actually impacts is a much smaller (but still sizeable) fragment. From what you and Dave (thank you too) have said, I need to decrease the size of that fragment and increase the amount of damage it does. To make future events track as planned, I need to frighten the planet half to death, not actually kill it. Writing plausable science fiction is a bit of a challenge. :laugh:

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