The only good junkie...
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...is a dead one. Seriously, if the penalty for possession of ice/meth was summary execution on the spot the world would be a better place.
Public hanging of drug dealers is one option, or, complete legalisation of all drugs, so that they can be taxed, quantified, controlled and quality assured. It would end the cycle of crime, provide legitimate income to impoverished countries, be a revenue stream not an expense for the rich countries and could allow a framework to help people get off the drugs. And anyway, if you are going to have a list of death penalty offences then please ensure sentence is immediate, and include paedophilia, premeditated murder, terrorism, playing loud music late at night, wearing offensive shirts, walking on the cracks in the pavement, bad oral hygeine, vegetarianism, and being smug.
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Public hanging of drug dealers is one option, or, complete legalisation of all drugs, so that they can be taxed, quantified, controlled and quality assured. It would end the cycle of crime, provide legitimate income to impoverished countries, be a revenue stream not an expense for the rich countries and could allow a framework to help people get off the drugs. And anyway, if you are going to have a list of death penalty offences then please ensure sentence is immediate, and include paedophilia, premeditated murder, terrorism, playing loud music late at night, wearing offensive shirts, walking on the cracks in the pavement, bad oral hygeine, vegetarianism, and being smug.
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Public hanging of drug dealers is one option, or, complete legalisation of all drugs, so that they can be taxed, quantified, controlled and quality assured. It would end the cycle of crime, provide legitimate income to impoverished countries, be a revenue stream not an expense for the rich countries and could allow a framework to help people get off the drugs. And anyway, if you are going to have a list of death penalty offences then please ensure sentence is immediate, and include paedophilia, premeditated murder, terrorism, playing loud music late at night, wearing offensive shirts, walking on the cracks in the pavement, bad oral hygeine, vegetarianism, and being smug.
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Putting squeaky shoes on your children
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Putting squeaky shoes on your children
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
OMG I'd love to do this: Get about 50 little kids, all wearing squeakers, and invade Walmart or another huge open-plan store. Use hidden cams to get the reactions of the customers and staff. Full Disclosure - Andrew has a pair of Squeakers, but we only put them on him when he's feeling particularly adventurous. We're talking about a kid who has discovered he fits through the doggie door, so any easy way to locate him is a plus.
There is water at the bottom of the ocean. My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
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...is a dead one. Seriously, if the penalty for possession of ice/meth was summary execution on the spot the world would be a better place.
Welcome to Iran
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Public hanging of drug dealers is one option, or, complete legalisation of all drugs, so that they can be taxed, quantified, controlled and quality assured. It would end the cycle of crime, provide legitimate income to impoverished countries, be a revenue stream not an expense for the rich countries and could allow a framework to help people get off the drugs. And anyway, if you are going to have a list of death penalty offences then please ensure sentence is immediate, and include paedophilia, premeditated murder, terrorism, playing loud music late at night, wearing offensive shirts, walking on the cracks in the pavement, bad oral hygeine, vegetarianism, and being smug.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
It would end the cycle of crime
How would making drugs legal solve the associated crime? They'd still cost money, clapped out junkies would still be unable to hold down jobs, why would they stop stealing?
I know you are cleverer than this. I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
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I know you are cleverer than this. I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
I'm not following. Drugs ruin lives, I'm sure you've seen it as have I. How would legality change the effect drug abuse has on people's mental state? I was at the park with my son yesterday kicking a ball around. A pit bull terrier with no lead stole and destroyed his ball, I followed it to it's owner and suggested she keep it on a lead as per the law. She let fly with a vile mouthful and threatened to bash the boy. I can pick the 'ice look' at 100 paces. Fucking junkie scum.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
I'm not following. Drugs ruin lives, I'm sure you've seen it as have I. How would legality change the effect drug abuse has on people's mental state? I was at the park with my son yesterday kicking a ball around. A pit bull terrier with no lead stole and destroyed his ball, I followed it to it's owner and suggested she keep it on a lead as per the law. She let fly with a vile mouthful and threatened to bash the boy. I can pick the 'ice look' at 100 paces. Fucking junkie scum.
Would you like to ban alcohol? It's a drug too.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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...is a dead one. Seriously, if the penalty for possession of ice/meth was summary execution on the spot the world would be a better place.
Agree with DD on this one: have always thought that drugs should be legal: could get the cops doing real; police work, would cut petty crime, would cut the numbers of people with infections from dirty needles, etc., clogging the A&E, raise much needed tax revenues, put drug dealers out of business. I don't take drugs, never have and never will but I don't care if someone else wants to as long as I don't have to suffer in some way because of it. There was a time (not so long ago) when it was mostly legal; and there were not the problems we have now. It is much like prohibition was in the US: an impossible battle to win so don't fight it: raise taxes instead.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
I'm not following. Drugs ruin lives, I'm sure you've seen it as have I. How would legality change the effect drug abuse has on people's mental state? I was at the park with my son yesterday kicking a ball around. A pit bull terrier with no lead stole and destroyed his ball, I followed it to it's owner and suggested she keep it on a lead as per the law. She let fly with a vile mouthful and threatened to bash the boy. I can pick the 'ice look' at 100 paces. Fucking junkie scum.
_Josh_ wrote:
Drugs ruin lives
Drugs can ruin lives, especially when criminalised. Until the UK joined the "War on Drugs" (sometime in the 60s), GPs prescribed for addicts: heroin, cocaine, purple hearts, speed, ... all tastes catered for. No pushers, no drug crime. OK, we have more 'designer' drugs now, but they are still dirt cheap to make, the mark up is due to their illegality. If the addict is visiting their GP regularly, their addiction can be managed, maybe cured. (It is possible for a heroin addict to hold down a job and live a normal life, as they are weaned off their addiction.) For those who choose not to be cured, prescription is probably the cheapest way to facilitate their early removal from society. Taxing ciggies and booze has led to an ambivalent attitude by government - Health versus Revenue - so I am not keen on taxing drugs, merely channeling their supply through the healthcare providers. (Perhaps we could do that with ciggies and booze: Aldi own brand on the NHS, Black Russian and Single Malt from BUPA.)
2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain
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...is a dead one. Seriously, if the penalty for possession of ice/meth was summary execution on the spot the world would be a better place.
... not to mention that there would be lots of dead bodies laying about. :)
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... not to mention that there would be lots of dead bodies laying about. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Anyone for a smoothie? Vegetable, enhanced with human remains sounds especially delicious. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Would you like to ban alcohol? It's a drug too.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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wolfbinary wrote:
Would you like to ban alcohol? It's a drug too.
So is aspirin but these are hardly a valid comparison. You wont find casual or social intravenous users of heroin, nor will you find many, if any, aged over about 35 or 40.
_Josh_ wrote:
You wont find casual or social intravenous users of heroin
Yeah but you might, if heroin were as available as say aspirin. :)
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_Josh_ wrote:
You wont find casual or social intravenous users of heroin
Yeah but you might, if heroin were as available as say aspirin. :)
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Chris Meech wrote:
Yeah but you might, if heroin were as available as say aspirin.
The fact one is addictive just might be a factor. Do you think it's unreasonable to classify groups of drugs differently? There are parts of my city where you could argue that heroin is as available as aspirin, I suspect these areas also have the highest rates of violent crimes.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I think you maybe are playing devil's advocate, but in case not, just think about it.
I'm not following. Drugs ruin lives, I'm sure you've seen it as have I. How would legality change the effect drug abuse has on people's mental state? I was at the park with my son yesterday kicking a ball around. A pit bull terrier with no lead stole and destroyed his ball, I followed it to it's owner and suggested she keep it on a lead as per the law. She let fly with a vile mouthful and threatened to bash the boy. I can pick the 'ice look' at 100 paces. Fucking junkie scum.
It's unfortunate your run in with the pit bull but it is a perfect example of how legalization would solve urban crime... Why would a junkie/dealer feel he needs a pit bull? They tend to have them to protect their "stash". Why have a "stash" if you can go down to the 7/11 and pick up what is "needed"?
_Josh_ wrote:
Drugs ruin lives
Mostly because of the legal issues. When drugs are allowed to be used openly then people are more likely to admit they have a problem... Or their families have standing ground to get them help. It is quite difficult if the "problem" is entirely illegal in the first place (unlike alchohol).
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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It's unfortunate your run in with the pit bull but it is a perfect example of how legalization would solve urban crime... Why would a junkie/dealer feel he needs a pit bull? They tend to have them to protect their "stash". Why have a "stash" if you can go down to the 7/11 and pick up what is "needed"?
_Josh_ wrote:
Drugs ruin lives
Mostly because of the legal issues. When drugs are allowed to be used openly then people are more likely to admit they have a problem... Or their families have standing ground to get them help. It is quite difficult if the "problem" is entirely illegal in the first place (unlike alchohol).
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
It's unfortunate your run in with the pit bull but it is a perfect example of how legalization would solve urban crime... Why would a junkie/dealer feel he needs a pit bull?
This was no dealer, just a junkie living hand to mouth. How would legal drugs stop them making poor decisions?
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Mostly because of the legal issues. When drugs are allowed to be used openly then people are more likely to admit they have a problem... Or their families have standing ground to get them help. It is quite difficult if the "problem" is entirely illegal in the first place (unlike alchohol).
Have you ever known a heroin or ice addict? I suspect not. Here treatment is freely available, payed for by the tax payer. There are government funded shooting galleries where they can get clean needles and the cops turn a blind eye. If what you say is true why do we still have a problem? Hard drugs ruin lives, of that there is no doubt. Comparing hard drugs to drink, pot, even ecstasy is just ignorant.