Ideal project
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Paul Watson wrote: Technology wise I can pitch it at IE6 and use all the cutting edge stuff without having to worry about older browsers. Hallelujah! Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come Cool - the dream is realised! Paul Watson wrote: turns out this is an after hours project Does that mean you get to pocket all the cash? :cool:
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages Religion without Science is blind, Science without Religion is lame -Albert Einstein
Megan Forbes wrote: Does that mean you get to pocket all the cash? :laugh: Oh that is rich indeed. Thanks for the laugh Meg :-D It is a prototype aimed at getting the client. Read: No money, yet. But hey, we are developers right? We just want to code, who cares about what for or why. Just make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
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So I landed myself an ideal project to work on for the next two weeks. Basically it is a proto-type of a bunch of ideas we have for a new client. Why is this so grand? Well, it is more about the broad ideas and concepts than nitty gritty debugged details, which is just awesome IMO. I can choose the technology, I get to write the spec and I get to do the design. Nobody else has a say in it except for the broad ideas that need to be brought across. Technology wise I can pitch it at IE6 and use all the cutting edge stuff without having to worry about older browsers. Hallelujah! Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come :-D Well... that was all sounding too good to be true... and it was... turns out this is an after hours project :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ah well, at least it will be fun :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Are you sure this isn't a wind up by your collegues. Sounds too good to be true to me :-D Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen
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Megan Forbes wrote: Does that mean you get to pocket all the cash? :laugh: Oh that is rich indeed. Thanks for the laugh Meg :-D It is a prototype aimed at getting the client. Read: No money, yet. But hey, we are developers right? We just want to code, who cares about what for or why. Just make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Paul Watson wrote: Just make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. Yeah, I am hoping to get that "Will work for bandwidth" T-Shirt in my stocking this year... :)
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages Religion without Science is blind, Science without Religion is lame -Albert Einstein
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Are you sure this isn't a wind up by your collegues. Sounds too good to be true to me :-D Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen
Michael P Butler wrote: Are you sure this isn't a wind up by your collegues LOL. If I had not personally met with the client yesterday and assesed their expectations I would agree with you in thinking it was a wind up, a "keep Paul busy so he does not get lazy" project :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
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So I landed myself an ideal project to work on for the next two weeks. Basically it is a proto-type of a bunch of ideas we have for a new client. Why is this so grand? Well, it is more about the broad ideas and concepts than nitty gritty debugged details, which is just awesome IMO. I can choose the technology, I get to write the spec and I get to do the design. Nobody else has a say in it except for the broad ideas that need to be brought across. Technology wise I can pitch it at IE6 and use all the cutting edge stuff without having to worry about older browsers. Hallelujah! Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come :-D Well... that was all sounding too good to be true... and it was... turns out this is an after hours project :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ah well, at least it will be fun :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Paul Watson wrote: can choose the technology, I get to write the spec and I get to do the design. Nobody else has a say in it except for the broad ideas that need to be brought across. You mean instead of juggling numbers it could juggle naked girls, just as long a customer management is pleased? :cool: grats, Paul! Just make sure you don't get overboard but get something done.
If I could find a souvenir / just to prove the world was here [sighist]
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Paul Watson wrote: can choose the technology, I get to write the spec and I get to do the design. Nobody else has a say in it except for the broad ideas that need to be brought across. You mean instead of juggling numbers it could juggle naked girls, just as long a customer management is pleased? :cool: grats, Paul! Just make sure you don't get overboard but get something done.
If I could find a souvenir / just to prove the world was here [sighist]
peterchen wrote: You mean instead of juggling numbers it could juggle naked girls, just as long a customer management is pleased? LOL, the MD will be seeing it and he did not seem like the Naked Juggling Girls type person. peterchen wrote: grats, Paul! Just make sure you don't get overboard but get something done. Who me? I would never go wild and try and create a nVerse simulator instead of just a simple proto-type... :~ :-D Sound and wise advice Peterchen, I shall do my best to restrain myself :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
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So I landed myself an ideal project to work on for the next two weeks. Basically it is a proto-type of a bunch of ideas we have for a new client. Why is this so grand? Well, it is more about the broad ideas and concepts than nitty gritty debugged details, which is just awesome IMO. I can choose the technology, I get to write the spec and I get to do the design. Nobody else has a say in it except for the broad ideas that need to be brought across. Technology wise I can pitch it at IE6 and use all the cutting edge stuff without having to worry about older browsers. Hallelujah! Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come :-D Well... that was all sounding too good to be true... and it was... turns out this is an after hours project :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ah well, at least it will be fun :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Paul Watson wrote: So I landed myself an ideal project to work on for the next two weeks. Only two weeks. Shucks. Paul Watson wrote: Well, it is more about the broad ideas and concepts than nitty gritty debugged details, which is just awesome IMO. That is what I have been doing for the last year. (But with reality forced in, like working with legacy systems that I have NO INPUT INTO.) Paul Watson wrote: Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come Same here. That part has been wonderful. Now back to reality and why it has been this long. All of that legacy stuff. The critical data sources are controled by a group that still states, "XML and the Web are just fads". We do not want to do anything there untill it looks like it is here for more than short term. This was their developers and they did mean the WEB (Internet)! So even though I could control the server and the client (with some limits) with out data behind it, I have a worthless product. I had better control myself and not go into more details. But at least I am having fun with much of the new technology. Also we do have the attention of upper management now. We did some work in 100 hours that legacy areas have spent 1000's on. This is big bucks and they want us to pilot some more complete integration next spring. This was OK more of the same until the ending words ("And let me know if anyone gets in your way!") I felt he meant it:) "I will find a new sig someday."
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Paul Watson wrote: So I landed myself an ideal project to work on for the next two weeks. Only two weeks. Shucks. Paul Watson wrote: Well, it is more about the broad ideas and concepts than nitty gritty debugged details, which is just awesome IMO. That is what I have been doing for the last year. (But with reality forced in, like working with legacy systems that I have NO INPUT INTO.) Paul Watson wrote: Server side I can use virtually anything that I am able to install.. so .NET, web services, XML, XSL and all the other goodies here I come Same here. That part has been wonderful. Now back to reality and why it has been this long. All of that legacy stuff. The critical data sources are controled by a group that still states, "XML and the Web are just fads". We do not want to do anything there untill it looks like it is here for more than short term. This was their developers and they did mean the WEB (Internet)! So even though I could control the server and the client (with some limits) with out data behind it, I have a worthless product. I had better control myself and not go into more details. But at least I am having fun with much of the new technology. Also we do have the attention of upper management now. We did some work in 100 hours that legacy areas have spent 1000's on. This is big bucks and they want us to pilot some more complete integration next spring. This was OK more of the same until the ending words ("And let me know if anyone gets in your way!") I felt he meant it:) "I will find a new sig someday."
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Only two weeks. Shucks. Well it is just a prototype for a small intranet project. Hardly seems worth the effort, but I am hoping to be blessed with some miracle which allows me to do the prototype in such a way so that I can re-use most of it for the real project. Really this project is a "yes, yes, whatever, just let us get our foot in the door" loss leader effort. If we manage to do it then bigger things should come from it. Michael A. Barnhart wrote: like working with legacy systems that I have NO INPUT INTO.) While I am 100% sure yours is far worse and on a much bigger scale I just finished a project like that. I now know the thing I least like doing in life; Hacking on a new website front-end to a 5 year old database you may not change. Legacy bites. Michael A. Barnhart wrote: "XML and the Web are just fads". :laugh: :laugh: Aren't those the same guys who nodded their heads in agreement when Mr. X said "I see a world wide need for 6 computers" :-D If we thought like them then the dinosaurs were also just a passing fad... I guess 75 million years is still too soon to bet anything on.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
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Paul Watson wrote: Just make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. Yeah, I am hoping to get that "Will work for bandwidth" T-Shirt in my stocking this year... :)
I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages Religion without Science is blind, Science without Religion is lame -Albert Einstein
I just about £80 on thinkgeek T-Shirtsk (Which will be closer to £120 once customs take their extra fee) If they had a UK site, I don't think I'd have any money left at all :| -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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I just about £80 on thinkgeek T-Shirtsk (Which will be closer to £120 once customs take their extra fee) If they had a UK site, I don't think I'd have any money left at all :| -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: I just about £80 on thinkgeek T-Shirtsk (Which will be closer to £120 once customs take their extra fee) You just spent 80 quid on t-shirts? :eek: :omg: :wtf: :~ X| :confused: :rolleyes: OMG! That is R1200... I could do a lot with R1200! Or do you only by your clothes from ThinkGeek and this is your yearly T-Shirt update spree?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
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benjymous wrote: I just about £80 on thinkgeek T-Shirtsk (Which will be closer to £120 once customs take their extra fee) You just spent 80 quid on t-shirts? :eek: :omg: :wtf: :~ X| :confused: :rolleyes: OMG! That is R1200... I could do a lot with R1200! Or do you only by your clothes from ThinkGeek and this is your yearly T-Shirt update spree?
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Well, it's the first time I've actually bought anything from them before, but every time I do I find another t-shirt I want to buy, so the last time I figured what the hell, and just bought them :) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Megan Forbes wrote: Does that mean you get to pocket all the cash? :laugh: Oh that is rich indeed. Thanks for the laugh Meg :-D It is a prototype aimed at getting the client. Read: No money, yet. But hey, we are developers right? We just want to code, who cares about what for or why. Just make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChristopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately)
Paul Watson wrote: make sure our dev machines are paid for, there is internet and coffee. Praise the lord!!! Oh yeah... so very true. :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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I just about £80 on thinkgeek T-Shirtsk (Which will be closer to £120 once customs take their extra fee) If they had a UK site, I don't think I'd have any money left at all :| -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
£80 on T-Shirts!! :omg: You wouldn't believe how much wardrobe I could get for that...:laugh: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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