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How Hard Can It BE??? (VS2010 mini-rant)

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  • L Lost User

    Look, I know VS2010 is a complex piece of software, and I don't expect it to be perfect. I can't quite forgive the failure to refresh the screen at times - but I can put that down to my machine at work, as it rarely if ever happens at home. But why oh why oh why when I set a breakpoint in debug, and it hits the breakpoint, does it fail to display the line it's actually broken on ?? It usually comes pretty close - within one or two lines - but I don't want to have to scroll to see where it's stopped! It does the same, occasionally, with Find - positions the cursor on the word that it's found - but doesn't scroll the window to show the line. - This happens so frequently that I find myself doing the Left-Right cursor key waggle to get the line to show almost automatically after a Find or debug break. It's so blatantly fundamentally broken!

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    I've yet to see the breakpoint problem but the search problem drives me batty constantly. I too do the right arrow trick to scroll it into view. It's a glaring problem, I'm surprised they didn't fix it or notice it.


    There is no failure only feedback

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      I've yet to see the breakpoint problem but the search problem drives me batty constantly. I too do the right arrow trick to scroll it into view. It's a glaring problem, I'm surprised they didn't fix it or notice it.


      There is no failure only feedback

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      Thank god - I was beginning to think t was just me!

      John C wrote:

      I'm surprised they didn't fix it or notice it.

      'Surprised' doesn't come close to my feeling!

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        Look, I know VS2010 is a complex piece of software, and I don't expect it to be perfect. I can't quite forgive the failure to refresh the screen at times - but I can put that down to my machine at work, as it rarely if ever happens at home. But why oh why oh why when I set a breakpoint in debug, and it hits the breakpoint, does it fail to display the line it's actually broken on ?? It usually comes pretty close - within one or two lines - but I don't want to have to scroll to see where it's stopped! It does the same, occasionally, with Find - positions the cursor on the word that it's found - but doesn't scroll the window to show the line. - This happens so frequently that I find myself doing the Left-Right cursor key waggle to get the line to show almost automatically after a Find or debug break. It's so blatantly fundamentally broken!

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        Brady Kelly
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        I'm with you there. My current peeve in the "it's so freaking basic" category, however, is EF 4.1's complete lack of any hint of a unique constraint when using a code or model first approach. If you want to take over creating and updating the DB schema, you mustn't require me to circumvent your code in order to implement my chosen constraints.

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        • A Albert Holguin

          Haven't seen this specific problem in any of the Studios... although I have yet to use VS2010 and I develop in C++ (I've developed on VS6, 2003, 2005, and 2008)... I can't imagine they would have such an obvious bug in their code, I think it has to be a configuration thing... good luck trying to figure that out! :wtf:

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          It isn't so much a bug as huge, glaring omission.

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          • B Brady Kelly

            I'm with you there. My current peeve in the "it's so freaking basic" category, however, is EF 4.1's complete lack of any hint of a unique constraint when using a code or model first approach. If you want to take over creating and updating the DB schema, you mustn't require me to circumvent your code in order to implement my chosen constraints.

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            Entity Framework? you lose man points for using that crap, IMHO. Code it yerself!

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            • L Lost User

              Entity Framework? you lose man points for using that crap, IMHO. Code it yerself!

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              Brady Kelly
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              I hope you're not serious. If so, you lose developer points for a display of ignorance. How many ORM's have you coded yourself?

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              • B Brady Kelly

                It isn't so much a bug as huge, glaring omission.

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                Philippe Mori
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                Well, this will happen only in specific scenarios because it normally works fine. It might even be that your installation is somehow corrupted. Long lines does not seems to be a problem. Usually Visual Studio would center vertically on the desired line if the line was not previously visible and no scroll would occurs if the line is already visible. Beside that, "Find" window usually move so that the text will be visbile. Are you using fixed-width fonts? Are youy using some third-party plug-ins?

                Philippe Mori

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  It isn't so much a bug as huge, glaring omission.

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                  Albert Holguin
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                  :laugh:

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                  • L Lost User

                    Thank god - I was beginning to think t was just me!

                    John C wrote:

                    I'm surprised they didn't fix it or notice it.

                    'Surprised' doesn't come close to my feeling!

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                    Albert Holguin
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                    I've never had this problem with the search either... wonder if its configuration or maybe just a bug in VS2010... either way, that's why I don't go to the new dev environment until at least after the first service pack...

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                    • P Philippe Mori

                      Well, this will happen only in specific scenarios because it normally works fine. It might even be that your installation is somehow corrupted. Long lines does not seems to be a problem. Usually Visual Studio would center vertically on the desired line if the line was not previously visible and no scroll would occurs if the line is already visible. Beside that, "Find" window usually move so that the text will be visbile. Are you using fixed-width fonts? Are youy using some third-party plug-ins?

                      Philippe Mori

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                      Philippe Mori wrote:

                      It might even be that your installation is somehow corrupted.

                      I doubt my installations on two home machines and two work machines are all corrupted. I'm using Consolas font and ReSharper.

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                      • B Brady Kelly

                        I hope you're not serious. If so, you lose developer points for a display of ignorance. How many ORM's have you coded yourself?

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                        ggg

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