IE9 --- Thumbs down after 60 seconds
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ardagii wrote:
U Chrome and FF fans, don't really like change, do u(or feel threatened by it)?
Surely your the one who doesn't like change. i.e. you just stick with the browser that you get given. And the only change for us Chrome users to IE9 is that IE9 still sucks no matter how much it wants to be Chrome - IE9 is a poor attempt to look and feel like Chrome
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Not really. I wasn't always a IE fan. Back in the days when IE6 was the only option MS had to offer, I started looking for better browsers like FF. It was fine, however I didn't like the way it displayed certain web pages I was oftenly used. Then IE7 came along with the new accelerator and web slice features, the favourites bar which was more practical then what FF had to offer. What can I say, love at 1st site. Not long after IE7, safary came along. Very nice, it was faster than FF but it was difficult to add the 2nd tab, plus i had the same problem when displaying webpages. Whan Google announced Chrome, I was very excited. When the release date came, I was one of those guys that was pressing F5 every 2min to see if the download became available. My 1st impression was "cute" very fast, very lighweight. Then I went to options and saw the mozila behind it. It was definetly better, but still some pages(less than FF and safari) failed to appear properly. IE8 was nice, more secure than IE7 but not many noticeable improvements. Finally IE9 is just what I was waiting for. It suits my needs, it's fast as the others(though I never minded waiting 1 more second for the web page to display) and it has some new features that I can't wait to use. P.S. let's not forget, FF is corporate ready for at least 1 year now and the percentage of FF users is the same
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Marc Greiner at home wrote:
I still can't understand why people use FF
Because it has the biggest Add-In store. Maybe you don't use them, but they can be very useful. To mention two that I use the most: 1 - IE Tab II/Chrome Tab: These add-ins put a tiny icon on the status bar so you can instantly change the rendering engine of the browser. Want to text on three different browsers, no need to fire them up, a simple click of a button and you can see the results of different rendering engines in a heartbeat, simply useful. It also makes it very easy to handle websites that work best at specific engines. You can save the urls and when you type it on the address bar, FF automatically switches to the prefered engine for that website. 2 - Firebug (which is also available on Chrome): It makes debugger's life much easier by allowing to debug the web app in the browser with split screen. These are only two. Currently I have 9 Add-Ins that I use, from Tabs and Favorites sync to World Clocks, all of them makes many tasks easier, faster and in one place. Now you know something FF is better than others. And its market share has been built for a long time, specially as alternative to IE. Now we have more options, but market share is built over lack of options. Opera missed that when it had the chance to stand out in the right moment. I used Opera once, couldn't work on most websites I used so I promptly removed it. Never really used it for testing as I don't build large public web apps and my target audience does not use it, so there is no reason as of yet to ever have it.
Thanks, this is interesting to know.
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So, i thought i had at least upgrade my IE, get it out of the way. So downloads installer and kicks it off: and it closed everything running to install, reopened them again and then told me to restart computer to use it. :wtf: (Why not just close everything, install and then restart computer as part of the install process). Anyway, took a few sites for a quick spin, Engadget, CP, MSN, and after 60 seconds of this, i thought why did i bother. It's toolbar arrangement, tabs, address bar, all look so dated. The page scrolling is not very pretty, it just feels so X| Think I will be staying with chrome.........
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First strike: installer wouldn't run. Had to find alternate installer. Second strike: won't display certain parts of pages without reverting to compatibility mode. Third strike: breaks layout of a good number of sites (even when I use compatibility). Fourth strike: crazy download windows at the bottom of the screen! Not in my normal viewing area and it didn't grab my attention. Fourth, part duh: won't let me just run a download - I still have to click more "yes, I'm doing this on purpose" buttons. I really wanted to like it, but maybe it's like everything else MS...wait for SP1.
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Yes! One more almost 10 years happy Opera user here (for browsing, email, nntp, feeds, sync, download manager, etc.). I will eventually have IE9 on my machine, for development purposes or for specific sites (I have experimented that LogMeIn works well in IE only). Chrome is also on my machine, for test purposes, as well as Safari and FF. Actually I don't use FF, as it does nothing more or better or faster than the others. I still can't understand why people use FF and how it got its market share.
I thought the same thing until fairly recently. I kept FF for development purposes only but when I really started exploring the add-on store I was sold. I have a few add-ons that I use exclusively and browsing is great. I block ads from the pages I browse and use 'Ghostery', which is an add-on that blocks trackers. I should add that I use IE9, Chrome, and Firefox for different sites and purposes.
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There is no sane reason why you shouldn't upgrade from 8 to 9, even if you don't use IE at all. It is used internally by the OS and the IE9 engine is much faster and more secure.
blackjack2150 wrote:
There is no sane reason why you shouldn't upgrade from 8 to 9,
Except for the fact that all of the systems where I work are XP Pro and 2 of my desktops at home are XP. I don't see that fact changing before we have IE-15 or higher. You may consider that an "insane" reason, but unfortunately that is the way it is. So I'll stick to Firefox going forward as long as they add features and continue to support the OS Version that I am stuck with. :)
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I'm glad to see there's other Opera users on here - There doesn't seem to be many of us :( I've been using it since around when version 6 or 7 came out. :)
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I'm not denying the fact that they may have intentionally strongly coupled a few things here and there with IE such that it becomes an important part of the OS. However, I'd like to give them the benefit of doubt as well. Windows explorer uses the same engine. I do not think there should have been any malicious intent here (as opposed to say, having the common controls updated with each version of IE), because if I were to write two different 'explorers', I'd strongly consider the possibility of both using the same engine. But the users are free to install and use whatever browser (including Google malware) they want, and I don't see the point in installing something that apparently is anyway going to "suck", and then whine about it. Browsers are free, anyway. I personally use Opera though, and I'm very happy with it.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
It's sad that Explorer is so needed by Windows. If you kill the last running explorer, everything on your desk top disappears, including the task bar. Complete crap. Can't Windows survive without Explorer. If you want your virus to kill someone's computer, just mess up Explorer.
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It's sad that Explorer is so needed by Windows. If you kill the last running explorer, everything on your desk top disappears, including the task bar. Complete crap. Can't Windows survive without Explorer. If you want your virus to kill someone's computer, just mess up Explorer.
James Lonero wrote:
It's sad that Explorer is so needed by Windows. If you kill the last running explorer, everything on your desk top disappears, including the task bar.
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Killing explorer and complaining Windows won't show you anything is like removing the wheels off a car and calling it complete crap because it won't move. The wheels are there for a reason, you know? User error. Major fail.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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So, i thought i had at least upgrade my IE, get it out of the way. So downloads installer and kicks it off: and it closed everything running to install, reopened them again and then told me to restart computer to use it. :wtf: (Why not just close everything, install and then restart computer as part of the install process). Anyway, took a few sites for a quick spin, Engadget, CP, MSN, and after 60 seconds of this, i thought why did i bother. It's toolbar arrangement, tabs, address bar, all look so dated. The page scrolling is not very pretty, it just feels so X| Think I will be staying with chrome.........
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Its alright Google fanboy. Nobody's forcing you to. Go give your information away to google. ;P
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Its alright Google fanboy. Nobody's forcing you to. Go give your information away to google. ;P
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I won't even have it on my machine. I wonder when MS will stop doing browsers? There is no money to be made from them and so many others write them that is seems a waste of resources.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
There is no money to be made from them and so many others write them that is seems a waste of resources
Actually I believe they are getting paid by the spyware/malware/hacker community who would be seriuously hurt if IE were to go away.