which of these options would be an appropriate course of action. what would you do?
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[Yoda]There is no try. Do it or do it not.[/Yoda]
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011
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I'm glad you brought that up, there is something I've been meaning to tell you...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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[Yoda]There is no try. Do it or do it not.[/Yoda]
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011
CDP1802 wrote:
[Yoda]There is no try. Do it or do it not.[/Yoda]
[Yoda]Do. Or do not. There is no try.[/Yoda] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3hn6fFTxeo[^]
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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No, that's all wrong. Look below. I play Yoda :)
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011
CDP1802 wrote:
Look below. I play Yoda
Look below: Badly! :laugh:
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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First, let me rephrase that: There is no try. Catch it or catch it not. :)
"I just exchanged opinions with my boss. I went in with mine and came out with his." - me, 2011
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CDP1802 wrote:
[Yoda]There is no try. Do it or do it not.[/Yoda]
[Yoda]Do. Or do not. There is no try.[/Yoda] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3hn6fFTxeo[^]
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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if you have something really seriously big and useful to engage this world and change this world for good, but are economically constrained and vc's are not a solution.which of these options would be an appropriate course of action.what would you do? _______________________ 1)Ask for donations 2)wait for things to happen on their own. 3)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that their noble efforts would do good to the world. 4)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that the merits of the solution would do good to the world. 5)Try and convince a community to invest and promise a good payback on success. 6)Try and Convince a community to do their bit to spread the word through their personal social media accounts. 7)Convince a community to collaborate and work part time with you - just like the open source guys do. 8)Try and gather a realworld meetup with the community members to show them how they could change the world in front of their own eyes.(would guys be willing to travel to one destination on a short trip ?) ________________________________
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A) Draw up a good business plan and ask the bank for a loan. B) Draw up a good business plan and confront investers with your idea.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>
If business plans worked - there would be no term called recession in this world.-Nothing works according to plan.If businesses could plan , there would be no dearth of money in this world.I made a point that vc's and bankers are not an option. That's why instead of High level programing language stuff like vc's and bankers ,i am trying to work my way through low level programing languges. I might be looking for that One CP guy ,who's coming forward to say - lets work on it !
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if you have something really seriously big and useful to engage this world and change this world for good, but are economically constrained and vc's are not a solution.which of these options would be an appropriate course of action.what would you do? _______________________ 1)Ask for donations 2)wait for things to happen on their own. 3)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that their noble efforts would do good to the world. 4)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that the merits of the solution would do good to the world. 5)Try and convince a community to invest and promise a good payback on success. 6)Try and Convince a community to do their bit to spread the word through their personal social media accounts. 7)Convince a community to collaborate and work part time with you - just like the open source guys do. 8)Try and gather a realworld meetup with the community members to show them how they could change the world in front of their own eyes.(would guys be willing to travel to one destination on a short trip ?) ________________________________
You forgot one: 9) Reexamine the state of your ego and whether what you have to say really is that important or earth changing.
"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman
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You forgot one: 9) Reexamine the state of your ego and whether what you have to say really is that important or earth changing.
"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman
If you are really pointing that point at me - all i have to say is that I re-examin everyday mydelf everyday.I would be the last person to make some noise about nothing. _____________________ a quote from movie : Kate & Leopold -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart: It is no more crazy than a dog finding a rainbow. Dogs are colourblind, Gretchen. They don't see colour. Just like we don't see time. We can feel it, we can feel it passing, but we can't see it. It's just like a blur. It's like we're riding in a supersonic train and the world is just blowing by, but imagine if we could stop that train, eh, Gretchen? Imagine if we could stop that train, get out, look around, and see time for what it really is? A universe, a world, a thing as unimaginable as colour to a dog, and as real, as tangible as that chair you're sitting in. Now if we could see it like that, really look at it, then maybe we could see the flaws as well as the form. And that's it; it's that simple. That's all I discovered. I'm just a... a guy who saw a crack in a chair that no one else could see. I'm that dog who saw a rainbow, only none of the other dogs believed me. Gretchen: I believe you
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If business plans worked - there would be no term called recession in this world.-Nothing works according to plan.If businesses could plan , there would be no dearth of money in this world.I made a point that vc's and bankers are not an option. That's why instead of High level programing language stuff like vc's and bankers ,i am trying to work my way through low level programing languges. I might be looking for that One CP guy ,who's coming forward to say - lets work on it !
You really don't have a clue, do you?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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If you are really pointing that point at me - all i have to say is that I re-examin everyday mydelf everyday.I would be the last person to make some noise about nothing. _____________________ a quote from movie : Kate & Leopold -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart: It is no more crazy than a dog finding a rainbow. Dogs are colourblind, Gretchen. They don't see colour. Just like we don't see time. We can feel it, we can feel it passing, but we can't see it. It's just like a blur. It's like we're riding in a supersonic train and the world is just blowing by, but imagine if we could stop that train, eh, Gretchen? Imagine if we could stop that train, get out, look around, and see time for what it really is? A universe, a world, a thing as unimaginable as colour to a dog, and as real, as tangible as that chair you're sitting in. Now if we could see it like that, really look at it, then maybe we could see the flaws as well as the form. And that's it; it's that simple. That's all I discovered. I'm just a... a guy who saw a crack in a chair that no one else could see. I'm that dog who saw a rainbow, only none of the other dogs believed me. Gretchen: I believe you
I-am-Learning wrote:
I re-examin everyday mydelf everyday
Good! Testicular cancer[^] is essentially 100% curable is caught in time! Good for you! You were talking bollocks, weren't you?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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You really don't have a clue, do you?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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I-am-Learning wrote:
I re-examin everyday mydelf everyday
Good! Testicular cancer[^] is essentially 100% curable is caught in time! Good for you! You were talking bollocks, weren't you?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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If business plans worked - there would be no term called recession in this world.-Nothing works according to plan.If businesses could plan , there would be no dearth of money in this world.I made a point that vc's and bankers are not an option. That's why instead of High level programing language stuff like vc's and bankers ,i am trying to work my way through low level programing languges. I might be looking for that One CP guy ,who's coming forward to say - lets work on it !
The other day, I gave you a good link to find business plan documentation and advice. Now only if you had clicked that link and learned from those resources you would not be asking those kind of questions. Go visit my link in my recent message and learn. And as economics is not a forte of yours, may I suggest you also use Google to find information on "Economics 101" then you can find out about recessions and how they come about. So, your first task today would be to look at the resources that my link gave, and your second task is to learn about what those resources freely give you.
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The other day, I gave you a good link to find business plan documentation and advice. Now only if you had clicked that link and learned from those resources you would not be asking those kind of questions. Go visit my link in my recent message and learn. And as economics is not a forte of yours, may I suggest you also use Google to find information on "Economics 101" then you can find out about recessions and how they come about. So, your first task today would be to look at the resources that my link gave, and your second task is to learn about what those resources freely give you.
come on Richard -u think i havn't tried out those dumb tricks with the vc's . hey just to let you know ,i've written some economics stuff in my book the IQ Shift. VC's are venture cpitalists.they capitalise on your work,i guess.Also - i dont need money.I need some people.most of the VC guys anyway want to see some paid users. Btw - I did go through your link and understood everything out there. A VERY FEW % of things work out the VC or the bank way.
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come on Richard -u think i havn't tried out those dumb tricks with the vc's . hey just to let you know ,i've written some economics stuff in my book the IQ Shift. VC's are venture cpitalists.they capitalise on your work,i guess.Also - i dont need money.I need some people.most of the VC guys anyway want to see some paid users. Btw - I did go through your link and understood everything out there. A VERY FEW % of things work out the VC or the bank way.
Venture Capitalists do play an important role, but, they should not be your first port of call. And my links would have told you that if you read them properly. So, do yourself a very big favour and complete a business plan including draft financials, but be as honest as you can, putting incorrect or false information into a business plan will make you look stupid, and you don't want to look stupid now, do you? That's me finished. Reply or not, I don't care as I won't read it!
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Venture Capitalists do play an important role, but, they should not be your first port of call. And my links would have told you that if you read them properly. So, do yourself a very big favour and complete a business plan including draft financials, but be as honest as you can, putting incorrect or false information into a business plan will make you look stupid, and you don't want to look stupid now, do you? That's me finished. Reply or not, I don't care as I won't read it!
and what do i do with a business plan ? go to a bank ?is this what you are suggesting?.Thanks but that option is out of context.I clearly said - Vc's and bankers are not an option.Did you know twitter doesn't even have a business model as yet but there are 300 million people hooked on to it.
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if you have something really seriously big and useful to engage this world and change this world for good, but are economically constrained and vc's are not a solution.which of these options would be an appropriate course of action.what would you do? _______________________ 1)Ask for donations 2)wait for things to happen on their own. 3)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that their noble efforts would do good to the world. 4)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that the merits of the solution would do good to the world. 5)Try and convince a community to invest and promise a good payback on success. 6)Try and Convince a community to do their bit to spread the word through their personal social media accounts. 7)Convince a community to collaborate and work part time with you - just like the open source guys do. 8)Try and gather a realworld meetup with the community members to show them how they could change the world in front of their own eyes.(would guys be willing to travel to one destination on a short trip ?) ________________________________
- Wonder why, given that I have something seriously big and useful, no one will invest. Why do you think no-one is supportive of your idea? I don't want to be a downer but here are the answers to your options: 1)Ask for donations People won't, unless they already used your stuff, like a shareware model. 2)wait for things to happen on their own. Rarely/Never works. 3)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that their noble efforts would do good to the world. 4)Try and convince a community to start the sparks by using the solutions - citing that the merits of the solution would do good to the world. 5)Try and convince a community to invest and promise a good payback on success. 6)Try and Convince a community to do their bit to spread the word through their personal social media accounts. 7)Convince a community to collaborate and work part time with you - just like the open source guys do. For any of these to work, the community would have to beleive your efforts. You might get started if you are extremely charismatic (like a cult leader). You have demonstrated neither of these so far. 8)Try and gather a realworld meetup with the community members to show them how they could change the world in front of their own eyes.(would guys be willing to travel to one destination on a short trip ?) Again a hard business case would need to be made. I checked out your sites, it is almost impossible to work out what you have, except some kind of data storage. I can do that with Oracle. Large areas of your site are essentially meaningless (what is "superfractal engineering?") because you explain nothing. You claim to think you have some groundbreaking idea, but never express what that is. Outside the realms of Geekonia, business is 90% communication, and I'm afraid you don't communicate anything, not realy, but your stuff is highly buzzword-compliant. Inside our borders the only way to gain respect is to demonstrate you know what you are doing, again fail. Until you take on board the multiple, and similar criticisms here, your idea won't float. Even if you do take these on board, if your idea will still fail if it is no good. If you want to start a business you will have to be very hard-nosed about this.
