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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
i was using GOSUB (well, it's Clarion equivalent) less than two years ago. and i spent most of last year translating COBOL's version into C++. good times. IPLs sucked. POKE and PEEK were fun. it's nice to be that close to the metal.
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:"
5 Mins ago. My work computer still has a floppy drive.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:"
5 Mins ago. My work computer still has a floppy drive.
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
How about compiling Novell NetWare 2.x on a stack of about 25 floppies? Now THAT I reflect upon with contempt.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Did you ever POKE and PEEK?
Yep! And the wife and I do it every night!
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Yep! And the wife and I do it every night!
:laugh: +5
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How about compiling Novell NetWare 2.x on a stack of about 25 floppies? Now THAT I reflect upon with contempt.
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Dave KreskowiakI remember using 8" Floppies (much room for innuendo there, feel free), and also the joy when 1.2 meg 5.25" floppies were available.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Many times. 4. Yesterday!
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1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Many times. 4. Yesterday!
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
I used to have a permanent callous on my left thumb made by repeatedly cancelling the switches when inputting a bootstrap program
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The number 1765000 comes to mind :)
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
How many people remember using GOSUB?
Yes. Remember it.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL?
No.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Did you ever POKE and PEEK?
No.
Dalek Dave wrote:
"Insert next disk into Drive A:"
Yes. Remember that too.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:"
I have not come across it ever (not that old), but I came across http://forums.impulsedriven.com/406173[^], where on some systems Dragon Age 2 was requesting the user insert the disk into the A Drive.
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
IPL? Not certain, but the rest I did on my C=Vic-20 and C=64 back in the early 80s. We had a C=Vic-20 in 1981, and the C=64 in 1984. Of course, with the Vic-20 it was cassette storage and the 64 used drive 8 and 9, but it's still the same idea. :) The SYS command was another favorite, heh. Flynn
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:) Or RUN, LOAD and SAVE, (Spectrum ZX). :) Remember hooking your cassete recorder up to the spectrum, inserting the tape, jugling finger presses, tweaking the tone and volume to get a better load...
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Our Vic-20 was the same way, heh. Flynn
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
I only have one visible grey hair, and my beard is brown, but I quite well recall learning to rather use GOSUB and RETURN than GOTO. I also remember wishing that Sinclair Basic wasn't the only poking I was doing.
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BTDTGTTS! but with an Elliott 903. What about Friden Flexowriters and punch cards (KDF9), paper tape (mind those chads!) for playing moon lander on an ASR 33 Teletype (Elliott 903, later ICL1906A)), Handwritten coding sheets submitted for processing (ICL1903). Hex keypad (Nascom II) NEC Spinwriters (competitor to the IBM Golfball) on early Z80 machines for word processing (Exidy Sorcerer), Payroll systems in Algol60 (Sorcerer), 10Mb Winchester disks in something the size of a 2-drawer filing cabinet and costing £10000... 8in floppies holding 128Kbyte (256Kbyte if double sided!), 5 1/4 floppies (hard and soft sectored, single or double sided, Micropolis drives and format, Sirius/Victor floppies using variable speed drives to get more storage, Oh the list goes on forever! I feel honoured (and humbled, not to mention OLD) to have been involved right from the very beginning of the PC revolution, since before the IBM PC, and the mobile phone, or even the CD player. What was so great about it all, was that it was all genuinely new, and often really pushing the envelope of what was possible at the time. Whilst that still goes on unabated, the focus of that kind of progress is now in the areas that used to be covered by the large mainframes (like the CDC7600 at Manchester Uni), dramatic improvements in PC performance are now much harder to achieve, not least because each leap is swallowed up by the latest OS 'improvements' - try running windows 3.11 on modern hardware - goes so fast you often can't see the screen updates! (I'll get me coat...)
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I read an earlier post about GOTO statements. How many people remember using GOSUB? Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL? Did you ever POKE and PEEK? And how long has it been since you saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" Some of the parvenu will never has come across these, whilst the greybeards will look back fondly...(or possibly with contempt).
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
I loved GOSUB. I have been using computers now for over twenty years and have absolutely no idea (even after 'Googling') what an IPL actually is, but this may have something to do with the fact that my entire career has been spent (until the big Intel move of 2005 /06) on Motorola based machines. I frequently PEEKed, POKEd, LEEKed, LOKEd, DEEKed and DOKEd. Not seen these for years, but remember them with mixed feelings... Possibly even more annoying though was "Insert Disk B into Drive A" for single drive copy ops.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
How many people remember using GOSUB?
Yes. Remember it.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Are you old enough to remember having to do an IPL?
No.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Did you ever POKE and PEEK?
No.
Dalek Dave wrote:
"Insert next disk into Drive A:"
Yes. Remember that too.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.
- The code I work in every day still makes frequent use of GOSUB. There's even a few GOTOs lying around (which always annoy me when I see them) 2) A what? :) 3) PEEK & POKE - how else were we supposed to complete games on the old 8-bit home systems without POKEing in a cheat? :) 4) I think I installed Windows 95 from floppy disk once... I saw "Insert next disk into Drive A:" a lot just doing that...
