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A Server hardware Question for - the Technical people [modified]

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  • D DaveAuld

    Don't you think that the precise configuration is dependant on what exact code you will be running in each of the processes? If you search the MS website, i am sure there is a spreadsheet for determining hardware configurations based on system expectations.

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    Lost User
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    excuse me, I like to be polite enough but I was clear when I asked the question - The question was for a Site like Code project with a lot of Question answers and forums and some static pages - not much of logic and processing.

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    • N NormDroid

      I-am-Learning wrote:

      Do you know what is even more irritating? That he could be right to some extent. Big Grin

      Oh how you missed the sarcasm, you missed it by a few light years.

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      I remember you !

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        It's not clear - how many cpu's for the Windows server. How many CPU's for the db server? How much total Ram. How many simultaneous people can the the present config handle?

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        I-am-Learning wrote:

        how many cpu's for the Windows server

        One per box.

        I-am-Learning wrote:

        How much total Ram

        One per 35 or 50 ewes is recommended. More can cause fighting.

        I-am-Learning wrote:

        How many simultaneous people can the the present config handle?

        Three. I fake all the other responses.

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        • T thatraja

          I-am-Learning wrote:

          THIS IS NOT TECHNICAL enough

          :doh: I think you are asking almost spec for the project.

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          not exactly. - just how many cpu's of a server or cloud would be necessary for a site like code project for 50,000 simultaneous users.Do you have a idea, how many simultaneous people can the present configuration handle.

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Don't be such a tosser: you asked a question and people took the time to answer so don't get pissy cos you didn't get precisely what you wanted. You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner.

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            You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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                You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                He's telling you that someone took the time to answer your question, so there's no need to SHOUT, even if you can't appreciate their help. If you want more of a "technical enough" answer, go hire a consultant, and pay them to get what you want. If you want it for free, and you cannot be patient and polite, you'll get nothing. Well, may be you will get some humiliation for being ignorant and rude.

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                  I remember you !

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                  I hope so, it was only 2 days ago.

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                    I hope so, it was only 2 days ago.

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                    and you like talking to me.It's nice of you.You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were.

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                      What is the minimum server configuration to keep a site like codeproject running for 50,000 simultaneous users. Nos of procs for the windows server and nos of procs for the Sql Database server and amount of Ram. Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I think you act of the mistaken belief that we are all idiots and you are a genius. That's just as irritating. Deyan Georgiev Do you know what is even more irritating? That he could be right to some extent. Big Grin | :-D Inter-xect[^]

                      moved on Friday, March 25, 2011 12:36 PM

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                      If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        He's telling you that someone took the time to answer your question, so there's no need to SHOUT, even if you can't appreciate their help. If you want more of a "technical enough" answer, go hire a consultant, and pay them to get what you want. If you want it for free, and you cannot be patient and polite, you'll get nothing. Well, may be you will get some humiliation for being ignorant and rude.

                        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                        You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner. This was written in english Rajesh.

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                          and you like talking to me.It's nice of you.You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were.

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                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                          and you like talking to me

                          There you go again making assumptions.

                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                          It's nice of you

                          I wish I'd done something to be nice.

                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                          You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were

                          There you go again making assumptions. Looks to me if your space bar is broken. Also I'd be little cautious when my assumptions, epecially when its concerning me.

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                            If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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                            Thanks ,for your reply.Honestly and Seriously.Does that handle 50,000 users ?

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                              If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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                              :thumbsup:

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                              • L Lost User

                                What is the minimum server configuration to keep a site like codeproject running for 50,000 simultaneous users. Nos of procs for the windows server and nos of procs for the Sql Database server and amount of Ram. Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                                Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I think you act of the mistaken belief that we are all idiots and you are a genius. That's just as irritating. Deyan Georgiev Do you know what is even more irritating? That he could be right to some extent. Big Grin | :-D Inter-xect[^]

                                moved on Friday, March 25, 2011 12:36 PM

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                                I-am-Learning wrote:

                                Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                                See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

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                                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                                  Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                                  See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

                                  "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                    I-am-Learning wrote:

                                    Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                                    See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

                                    "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                    You didn't reply to my previous reply.thanks but i was just asking a simple question to thse who might know the answer.Why do some of my post go in to these long chains - with some fireworks.I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks. Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

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                                      You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner. This was written in english Rajesh.

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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                      Why is it that when someone points out your faults, you turn it around trying to divert it to prove that someone else doing something wrong? If you can't correct yourself without we "fixing" the problems of others, we could may be talk about the "problems" of other people first. Merrens told you in a less than polite manner to behave properly, because you were impolite, and you SHOUTED at someone who was trying to help. I see that his reaction is normal, because he's one of the regulars here, and the regulars here (most of them) don't take it well when someone (especially a relatively new person) doesn't play it well. If you're going to be impolite towards others, expect nothing less it in return. Now, can we talk about your problem? Can you behave politely, and NOT SHOUT?!

                                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                        You didn't reply to my previous reply.thanks but i was just asking a simple question to thse who might know the answer.Why do some of my post go in to these long chains - with some fireworks.I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks. Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                        I-am-Learning wrote:

                                        You didn't reply to my previous reply

                                        I did. Give it some godforsaken time. I have only two hands and five fingers in each.

                                        I-am-Learning wrote:

                                        I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks.

                                        You didn't acknowledge the help offered to you and worse yet you SHOUTED.

                                        I-am-Learning wrote:

                                        Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

                                        I do wish people could have ignored it, but you can't really be telling what should be others doing on the internet, especially when you do silly things.

                                        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                          You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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                                          R Giskard Reventlov
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                                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                                          You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum.

                                          Didn't see that: have you got a link?

                                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                                          Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller?

                                          Wouldn't care who you were: if you act like a fool I'll pull you up on it.

                                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                                          3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

                                          Reputations are irrelevant: they prove nothing and don't translate into anything: get over yourself.

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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