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A Server hardware Question for - the Technical people [modified]

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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Don't be such a tosser: you asked a question and people took the time to answer so don't get pissy cos you didn't get precisely what you wanted. You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner.

    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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    You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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      :zzz:

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        You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        He's telling you that someone took the time to answer your question, so there's no need to SHOUT, even if you can't appreciate their help. If you want more of a "technical enough" answer, go hire a consultant, and pay them to get what you want. If you want it for free, and you cannot be patient and polite, you'll get nothing. Well, may be you will get some humiliation for being ignorant and rude.

        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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        • L Lost User

          I remember you !

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          NormDroid
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          I hope so, it was only 2 days ago.

          Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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            I hope so, it was only 2 days ago.

            Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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            and you like talking to me.It's nice of you.You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were.

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              What is the minimum server configuration to keep a site like codeproject running for 50,000 simultaneous users. Nos of procs for the windows server and nos of procs for the Sql Database server and amount of Ram. Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I think you act of the mistaken belief that we are all idiots and you are a genius. That's just as irritating. Deyan Georgiev Do you know what is even more irritating? That he could be right to some extent. Big Grin | :-D Inter-xect[^]

              moved on Friday, March 25, 2011 12:36 PM

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              Rutvik Dave
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              If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                He's telling you that someone took the time to answer your question, so there's no need to SHOUT, even if you can't appreciate their help. If you want more of a "technical enough" answer, go hire a consultant, and pay them to get what you want. If you want it for free, and you cannot be patient and polite, you'll get nothing. Well, may be you will get some humiliation for being ignorant and rude.

                "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner. This was written in english Rajesh.

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                  and you like talking to me.It's nice of you.You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were.

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                  NormDroid
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                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                  and you like talking to me

                  There you go again making assumptions.

                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                  It's nice of you

                  I wish I'd done something to be nice.

                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                  You are not as bad and stupid as I thought you were

                  There you go again making assumptions. Looks to me if your space bar is broken. Also I'd be little cautious when my assumptions, epecially when its concerning me.

                  Software Kinetics - The home of good software

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                  • R Rutvik Dave

                    If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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                    Thanks ,for your reply.Honestly and Seriously.Does that handle 50,000 users ?

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                      If you are trying to host a site, that you just developed, then it's better to start with Shared Hosting, once you get the users and revenue going, you can shift to Dedicated Hosting, and once the site becomes big hit (you need to decide the criteria), then you try to host the site yourself. otherwise it's not worth it and too much efforts/money will be required to test if your new idea is going to work or not. becuase selft hosting is big resposibility, you need everything redundant, power / hardware / internet / storage etc... And if you have that kind of money in your pocket, then buy 2 high configuration servers, with dual socket CPUs, quad core Xeons, with 32 GB RAM each, with RAID 10 harddrives. and then install vmware ESX in both. and configure atleast 1 web servers each (for redundacy) , and 1 database server with atleast 1 node for replication (both on sperate servers for redundacy). you can allocate 8GB x 2 ram to sql server database, 4GB ram x 2 to web servers. reserve 2 GB for vmware host. and 1 GB for sql server failover witness database. and use rest for development environment. (and the networking hardware extra, hardware firewalls, switches, static ip, internet connections etc..) And if this is too complex then go with Amazon EC Services or Windows / SQL Azure. and you dont have to worry about anything, and you can upgrade the hardware as per the demand, by changing the web.config. I charge $120/hr for consultancy :rolleyes:

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                      Sandesh M Patil
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                      :thumbsup:

                      Cheers,
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                      • L Lost User

                        What is the minimum server configuration to keep a site like codeproject running for 50,000 simultaneous users. Nos of procs for the windows server and nos of procs for the Sql Database server and amount of Ram. Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I think you act of the mistaken belief that we are all idiots and you are a genius. That's just as irritating. Deyan Georgiev Do you know what is even more irritating? That he could be right to some extent. Big Grin | :-D Inter-xect[^]

                        moved on Friday, March 25, 2011 12:36 PM

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        I-am-Learning wrote:

                        Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                        See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

                        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                          Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                          See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

                          "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                          NormDroid
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                          The Big Bang Theory rocks, especially Penny :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzZ_83kOGJk[^]

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            I-am-Learning wrote:

                            Now dont look at my signature - it's a defence for the Irrational downvotes that I keep getting.

                            See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU[^]

                            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                            You didn't reply to my previous reply.thanks but i was just asking a simple question to thse who might know the answer.Why do some of my post go in to these long chains - with some fireworks.I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks. Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

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                              You keep proving yourself to be a bit of an ass: take a step back: if you want to be accepted here you're going about it in a very strange manner. This was written in english Rajesh.

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Why is it that when someone points out your faults, you turn it around trying to divert it to prove that someone else doing something wrong? If you can't correct yourself without we "fixing" the problems of others, we could may be talk about the "problems" of other people first. Merrens told you in a less than polite manner to behave properly, because you were impolite, and you SHOUTED at someone who was trying to help. I see that his reaction is normal, because he's one of the regulars here, and the regulars here (most of them) don't take it well when someone (especially a relatively new person) doesn't play it well. If you're going to be impolite towards others, expect nothing less it in return. Now, can we talk about your problem? Can you behave politely, and NOT SHOUT?!

                              "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                You didn't reply to my previous reply.thanks but i was just asking a simple question to thse who might know the answer.Why do some of my post go in to these long chains - with some fireworks.I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks. Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                I-am-Learning wrote:

                                You didn't reply to my previous reply

                                I did. Give it some godforsaken time. I have only two hands and five fingers in each.

                                I-am-Learning wrote:

                                I definitely didn't try and instigate any fireworks.

                                You didn't acknowledge the help offered to you and worse yet you SHOUTED.

                                I-am-Learning wrote:

                                Messages which are not relevant can be ignored -is that too high an expectation.

                                I do wish people could have ignored it, but you can't really be telling what should be others doing on the internet, especially when you do silly things.

                                "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                  You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum. Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller? 3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

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                                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                                  You remind me of the post a couple of days back where they were describing the type of code project members in the forum.

                                  Didn't see that: have you got a link?

                                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                                  Are you trying to prove you are the Big Dog, who doesn't spare anyone smaller?

                                  Wouldn't care who you were: if you act like a fool I'll pull you up on it.

                                  I-am-Learning wrote:

                                  3(5) votes for that messsage.Is that how reputations are built?

                                  Reputations are irrelevant: they prove nothing and don't translate into anything: get over yourself.

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                    Thanks ,for your reply.Honestly and Seriously.Does that handle 50,000 users ?

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                                    Number of users doesnt matter, even you have 7 mil users, it will handle. the question is how many are online at the given point of time? if around 3000 users are online at the same time, it will handle it. (again it depends how complex the site is, and how much database access / calculations are required to satisfy one user request) you can always use Load/Stress Testing tools on the website before launching it. I always stree test my web applications with atleast 5000 users for most common workflow.

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                                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                      Why is it that when someone points out your faults, you turn it around trying to divert it to prove that someone else doing something wrong? If you can't correct yourself without we "fixing" the problems of others, we could may be talk about the "problems" of other people first. Merrens told you in a less than polite manner to behave properly, because you were impolite, and you SHOUTED at someone who was trying to help. I see that his reaction is normal, because he's one of the regulars here, and the regulars here (most of them) don't take it well when someone (especially a relatively new person) doesn't play it well. If you're going to be impolite towards others, expect nothing less it in return. Now, can we talk about your problem? Can you behave politely, and NOT SHOUT?!

                                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      I didn't shout out .Languages can have nuances and I just highlighted that it was not technical enough.There could be an answer more detailed than that.May be shouting out is a term old timers are more familiar with than me.

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                                        The Code Project is hosted on 7 web servers running Windows 2008 R2 and Windows 2003 R2. Each box has between 2 and 4 Gb RAM and runs standard hyperthreaded desktop-level intel chips. The web servers connect to heavy duty multi-CPU, mutli-core SQL servers running SQL 2008 R2 THIS IS NOT TECHNICAL enough

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                                        realJSOP
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                                        Retard.

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          I didn't shout out .Languages can have nuances and I just highlighted that it was not technical enough.There could be an answer more detailed than that.May be shouting out is a term old timers are more familiar with than me.

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                                          I-am-Learning wrote:

                                          I didn't shout

                                          Putting a message in all capitals is considered to be shouting and is impolite. You really seem to be turning your refusal to learn into an art form.

                                          I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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