The science of not believing in science [modified]
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Oakman wrote:
Sex is impractical?
For a child? I would hope so.
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Except that Oakman is neither.
More importantly to you (if not to anyone else), after repeated warnings that your behavior was unacceptable, Oakman revoked your right to post in SB1.
"Repensum Est Canicula"
Oakman wrote:
More importantly to you (if not to anyone else), after repeated warnings that your behavior was unacceptable, Oakman revoked your right to post in SB1.
Such a sewious bizness, tawking on tha interwebs.
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Well pardon the fück out of me: who died and made you king of the keyboard?
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The Queens English, Kingsly Amis. :)
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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ict558 wrote:
For a child? I would hope so.
So you are opposed to sex education until the age of majority? :confused:
"Repensum Est Canicula"
Oakman wrote:
So you are opposed to sex education until the age of majority?
As much as you are in favour of giving sex education through practice or action, rather than theory to minors. :rolleyes: Go annoy Ravel, I have no time for your nonsense.
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
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WMD isnt only nukes. He didnt use any of them. In any case, he would have nuked the south east of Iraq, its full of shias.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
fat_boy wrote:
WMD isnt only nukes. He didnt use any of them.
US Doctrine on the use of WMD. Paraphrase: If you use chemical weapons, we'll nuke you. If you use biologicals, we'll nuke you. If you use nukes, we'll nuke you. :)
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Climate Change denial post in the SB? Tut tut, you know its now against the rules... :) A few point thoughh before Chris deletes it... 1) I am not that surprised by the contents, I have known for a long time that peoplel are capable of the most incredible self dellusion. The oposite is an almost impossible state where one constantly quesitons ones reasons and motives, almost to the point of being incapable of acting for without passion, and interest we acchieve little. Its is therefore naturtal that people seek to understand, and once they have a theory, like to try to proves its validity. 2) Throwing AGW scepticism in the same pile as people who believe they are aliens and incarnations of Jesus is a pathetic slandering that pretty much discredits the entire piece. 3) Only a complete moron would have believed Sadam had WMD (given that he was at his strongest after defeating Iran, and then got invaded by the US (Gulf war 1, the US very nearly got to Baghdad) and he dodnt use any WMD to defend Iraq. After that the country was the subject of sanctions and no fly zones. A situation hardly likely to increase his capability.) 4) The Climategate emails did not only find resonance with 'republicans', and dont forget that terms has no meaning outside the US, for many reasons, not the least of which is the fact that politics has got fuck all to do with the validity of a scientific theory, it also drove people like Monbiot to question AGW. 5) Climategate was a staggering exposure of complicity, data manipulation and disregard for scientific transparency at the very heart of the AGW position. 6) The state of science regarding AGW is sufficiently imature that it is right to be sceptical. That IS the nature of science.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
modified on Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:09 AM
This isn't a post about climate science. It's a post about how people go round and round about something because their beliefs hold more weight then the facts proven do. I figured you would post something about AWG when that wasn't the point at all, but the example. It caught my eye because of the lack of fact based argument that takes place everywhere now. It's just fascinating.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Let. It. Go.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Let. It. Go.
I am not sure (because of the page jump, and I am too lazy to figure it out) who you addressed this to, but the idea that someone would give it a 1 vote is beyond my comprehension -- balanced.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
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Oakman wrote:
So you are opposed to sex education until the age of majority?
As much as you are in favour of giving sex education through practice or action, rather than theory to minors. :rolleyes: Go annoy Ravel, I have no time for your nonsense.
Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah
I spent time dealing with you, only out of politeness and a certain curiosity to see how your mind worked. I will certainly stop addressing any posts to you or about you, if only you will do the same.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
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This isn't a post about climate science. It's a post about how people go round and round about something because their beliefs hold more weight then the facts proven do. I figured you would post something about AWG when that wasn't the point at all, but the example. It caught my eye because of the lack of fact based argument that takes place everywhere now. It's just fascinating.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
wolfbinary wrote:
It's a post about how people go round and round about something because their beliefs hold more weight then the facts proven do.
So lets get this straight, you believe man made CO2 is warming the planet in a dangerous and unprecedented way despite the fact that: 1) The arctic, greenland, the US, Canada and much of the rest of the north was warmer in the 1930's. 2) The Southern hemisphere isnt warming at all. 3) The tropospheric hot spot is non existant despite the models predictions that it would occur. 4) The earth is currently about the 500th coldest in the 10,000 year ice core temperature record. Just want to see if you really think AGW was the example or AGW scepticism was. :)
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Let. It. Go.
I am not sure (because of the page jump, and I am too lazy to figure it out) who you addressed this to, but the idea that someone would give it a 1 vote is beyond my comprehension -- balanced.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
Oakman wrote:
I am not sure (because of the page jump, and I am too lazy to figure it out) who you addressed this to
Ravel. I'm sick and tired of his petulance in these two threads.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Oakman wrote:
I am not sure (because of the page jump, and I am too lazy to figure it out) who you addressed this to
Ravel. I'm sick and tired of his petulance in these two threads.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I'm sick and tired of his petulance in these two threads.
Have you never spent a quarter of your life getting to know somebody and then having them dismiss and slight you for no good reason?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I'm sick and tired of his petulance in these two threads.
Have you never spent a quarter of your life getting to know somebody and then having them dismiss and slight you for no good reason?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Have you never spent a quarter of your life getting to know somebody and then having them dismiss and slight you for no good reason?
You've met the wife then?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Have you never spent a quarter of your life getting to know somebody and then having them dismiss and slight you for no good reason?
You've met the wife then?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You've met the wife then?
How did you not become bitter about it?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You've met the wife then?
How did you not become bitter about it?
Who said I'm not?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Who said I'm not?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Who said I'm not?
Nobody. I'm just wondering why you're condemning my bitterness so harshly.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Who said I'm not?
Nobody. I'm just wondering why you're condemning my bitterness so harshly.
Because you don't know Oakman personally. There's no point getting bitter with people you have no personal relationship with. I know that people's opinions are important to you now, but as you get older you realise that there's not a lot you can do to change their opinion so there's no point stressing over it - more importantly, you missed the irony in my post; I have no bitterness towards my wife - I have spent nearly 25 happy years together with her.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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Because you don't know Oakman personally. There's no point getting bitter with people you have no personal relationship with. I know that people's opinions are important to you now, but as you get older you realise that there's not a lot you can do to change their opinion so there's no point stressing over it - more importantly, you missed the irony in my post; I have no bitterness towards my wife - I have spent nearly 25 happy years together with her.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
you realise that there's not a lot you can do to change their opinion so there's no point stressing over it
I'm not trying to change his opinion. I just want to expose him to others.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I have no bitterness towards my wife - I have spent nearly 25 happy years together with her.
Hmm... Bad example.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Have you never spent a quarter of your life getting to know somebody and then having them dismiss and slight you for no good reason?
You've met the wife then?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You've met the wife then?
Damn. You took the words right out of my fingertips!
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
you realise that there's not a lot you can do to change their opinion so there's no point stressing over it
I'm not trying to change his opinion. I just want to expose him to others.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I have no bitterness towards my wife - I have spent nearly 25 happy years together with her.
Hmm... Bad example.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I just want to expose him to others.
And you have exposed what? That after repeated warnings - warnings that were also given by three other members of the forum - your posts were deleted and your right to post was removed? That you feel sorry for yourself and think that no-one has the right to deny you the right to troll anywhere you choose (Including this forum where you have just admitted that you are ignoring "The SoapBox is not for" . . . "personal vendettas) because your hurt feelings and juvenile opinions are ever so much more important that the rules? If you think that somehow I am somehow deeply troubled by your whining, you are mistaking me for your parents who are the only ones I can imagine would care in the slightest. The only person you have embarrassed is yourself. I am perfectly satisfied with my banning of you, and regret only that I did not do it sooner.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I just want to expose him to others.
And you have exposed what? That after repeated warnings - warnings that were also given by three other members of the forum - your posts were deleted and your right to post was removed? That you feel sorry for yourself and think that no-one has the right to deny you the right to troll anywhere you choose (Including this forum where you have just admitted that you are ignoring "The SoapBox is not for" . . . "personal vendettas) because your hurt feelings and juvenile opinions are ever so much more important that the rules? If you think that somehow I am somehow deeply troubled by your whining, you are mistaking me for your parents who are the only ones I can imagine would care in the slightest. The only person you have embarrassed is yourself. I am perfectly satisfied with my banning of you, and regret only that I did not do it sooner.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" ~ Patrick Henry, Republican and anti-Federalist
*sigh* You still don't understand. At all.