what I should do ?
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It sounds very attractive. Me and my colleague are given similar tasks. I finish it early. He can not. Why should I be treated the same? It is obvious that I am superior.
If you consistently finish your tasks sooner, then you should be awarded a pay rise. That's the way the system works, not with time off.
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Yes, it is strange, indeed. You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side. Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side.
No. We are professionals.
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).
I see, you've never met this person and yet you know all about him. You truly are the Son of God.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Toli Cuturicu wrote:
You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side.
No. We are professionals.
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).
I see, you've never met this person and yet you know all about him. You truly are the Son of God.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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If you are not a programmer, what are you doing on a programming site? I personally know lots of bosses. They do mainly administrative work.
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Toli Cuturicu wrote:
You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side.
No. We are professionals.
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).
I see, you've never met this person and yet you know all about him. You truly are the Son of God.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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If you are not a programmer, what are you doing on a programming site? I personally know lots of bosses. They do mainly administrative work.
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
If you are not a programmer, what are you doing on a programming site?
I am both a company owner, and a coder. I've probably been coding longer than you've been alive - that gives me the right to be on a programming site, and being a boss I have more perspective on what employers expect than you seem to.
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He finished the task he was assigned to. He deserves a promotion or a salary raise because he is proficient and quick. If you force the employee do more that he was assigned in the same time, you steal from him. Who is the thief then?
What are you on? If he has finished his job he has the moral obligation to ask for more. End of story. His job has to be done proficiently and quick. This is why he was hired at first place. This is like asking for extra money for doing the job well... so what? I have had tons of work to do and if one of my workers finishes the part I've assigned him he has to ask for more. I'll give him a little bit more, and I'll decide if it's time to work in other projects, if he has to learn any other / new technology or whatever, but of course he has to work all the contract hours as his contract specifies...
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
If you force the employee do more that he was assigned in the same time, you steal from him. Who is the thief then?
This complete sentence has no sense...
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Mmm, a nonymouse 1 plus my 5 gets you 4.56; intersting weights. :-D
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Not fair - I wanted to give him a 5 too, but now if I do it will not look perfect any more
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That is simply false.
Toli Cuturicu wrote:
That is simply false.
Depends on your contract. If he is contracted to complete a particular task and to be paid a specified amount for that task then you are correct - but then he would be a contractor not an employee. As an employee you are contracted to provide your labour for a number of hours. Finish a job - start the next one. Simple
Graham Librarians rule, Ook!
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TorstenH. wrote:
Do the documentation
Sorry - has the world come to an end?
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I have completed my assignment, I want to leave but I can't go because if my manager knows I am free he will assign me a task and I don't want to work right now ? what should I dooo :(
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Try being responsible. They pay you to work, not to sit idly by and watch everyone else work.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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No he didn't :mad:. His job is to be productive for his employer. As soon as he completes the current assignment, he should ask his supervision for the next. If they don't have one immediately available, he should ask what's the most productive thing he could be doing in the meantime: documenting his past work, learning other products/projects, etc. By the way, in case you're thinking I'm goofing off while I'm posting here on CP (and therefore not being productive for my employer), think again. I've got Visual Studio compiling a project at the moment, and I'm waiting on a product build. Also, I'm waiting for a customer to get out of bed (they're 3 hours behind us, and it's 7:23 a.m. here) before I can debug a problem they're having.
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By the way, in case you're thinking I'm goofing off while I'm posting here on CP (and therefore not being productive for my employer), think again. I've got Visual Studio compiling a project at the moment,
First[^] thing that came to mind.
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Yes, it is strange, indeed. You are programmers. You should be on the programmer's side. Instead, you seem to be on the side of the man who forgot / never knew how to code (the boss).
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I see, you've never met this person and yet you know all about him. You truly are the Son of God.
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Blasphemy!
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Try being responsible. They pay you to work, not to sit idly by and watch everyone else work.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
He worked hard and solved the problem while others worked less hard and could not solve theirs.