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  • H hairy_hats

    Thanks for the ChiRunning link, I'll check it out. Cross country brings back bad memories from school but there is a good path around this lake[^] near me that is pretty well-maintained and not too hilly.

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    Looks like a great place to run! We tend to run around the Meyrick Park area in Bournemouth, which has some interesting terrain in places. If you look on this StreetView image[^] two of the footpaths we use are visible either side of the road (both immediately go up a hill, but we like it that way). It's so tranquil around there - virtually no traffic, and just the occasional dog walker or runner. The only real downside is a serious amount of mud in the winter!

    Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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      Looks like a great place to run! We tend to run around the Meyrick Park area in Bournemouth, which has some interesting terrain in places. If you look on this StreetView image[^] two of the footpaths we use are visible either side of the road (both immediately go up a hill, but we like it that way). It's so tranquil around there - virtually no traffic, and just the occasional dog walker or runner. The only real downside is a serious amount of mud in the winter!

      Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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      Looks a nice area - plenty of trees. :) The lake near me is about 6 miles around which should be an achievable goal - only problem is it's swarming with emmets in the summer! :(

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      • H hairy_hats

        Am thinking of taking up jogging/running as a way to get fit...any advice to an unfit desk jockey (other than don't overdo it)?

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        Modern exercise physiology and every recent medical study in the field will tell you that jogging is just about the single stupidest thing you could possibly do. It won't get you fit, just injured / worn down. High intensity sprinting, resistance training and long slow walks on the other hand are ideal. And if you're thinking of losing weight be aware that weight loss is 99.9% diet and almost no amount of exercise less than extreme and dangerous will make a difference. See more here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/welcome-to-marks-daily-apple/[^]


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          Build up slowly using routes you now so you can judge your distance and pace. Some gentle stretching exercises before you start are a very good idea, but try not to overdo it. At first you'll probably find running quite uncomfortable, but if you persevere a little while you'll find that once you get through the initial discomfort the endorphins kick in and you start to get "the buzz". :) The first time Beth took me out running I could barely make it to the end of the road without being out of breath; now although I know the first half a mile or so can be a pain after that it's just great. I even enjoy a fast sprint to finish off our runs now. FWIW I prefer cross country (we often go round the edge of the golf course) to street running; YMMV. Finally, Beth and her Dad both swear by ChiRunning[^]; although I haven't quite got the knack of it yet it's definitely worth being aware of.

          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

          At first you'll probably find running quite uncomfortable, but if you persevere a little while

          There's a good reason for that: He and by extension you shouldn't be doing it in the first place without knowing the risks. Chronic cardio is a recipe for early painful death for nearly any average person. Modern science shows that the short and long term damage being done to the body is terrible. This sums up all the modern research nicely: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/[^]


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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

            At first you'll probably find running quite uncomfortable, but if you persevere a little while

            There's a good reason for that: He and by extension you shouldn't be doing it in the first place without knowing the risks. Chronic cardio is a recipe for early painful death for nearly any average person. Modern science shows that the short and long term damage being done to the body is terrible. This sums up all the modern research nicely: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/[^]


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            I'm not going to be doing intense high-cardio work just getting more exercise. Sounds like the person who wrote that blog had massively overdone the training over an extended period.

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              I'm not going to be doing intense high-cardio work just getting more exercise. Sounds like the person who wrote that blog had massively overdone the training over an extended period.

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              Honestly if you take a few minutes to do some research on all the latest thinking on being fit you will see a lot of the same thing from many different sources: high intensity sprinting, resistance training and long slow walking. That blog just wraps it all up in one place. People will take forever to research nearly anything but when it comes to diet and exercise they just go with "conventional wisdom" which is utterly wrong at almost every level. Why go jogging for an hour when you can literally get fitter in just 4 minutes of Tabata sprints? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training[^]


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                Honestly if you take a few minutes to do some research on all the latest thinking on being fit you will see a lot of the same thing from many different sources: high intensity sprinting, resistance training and long slow walking. That blog just wraps it all up in one place. People will take forever to research nearly anything but when it comes to diet and exercise they just go with "conventional wisdom" which is utterly wrong at almost every level. Why go jogging for an hour when you can literally get fitter in just 4 minutes of Tabata sprints? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training[^]


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                Well the initial reports look promising but it'd be interesting to know how a lifetime of them compares to the received wisdom.

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                Why go jogging for an hour when you can literally get fitter in just 4 minutes of Tabata sprints?

                See the countryside, get fresh air, talk to people, make some vitamin D... :)

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                  Modern exercise physiology and every recent medical study in the field will tell you that jogging is just about the single stupidest thing you could possibly do. It won't get you fit, just injured / worn down. High intensity sprinting, resistance training and long slow walks on the other hand are ideal. And if you're thinking of losing weight be aware that weight loss is 99.9% diet and almost no amount of exercise less than extreme and dangerous will make a difference. See more here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/welcome-to-marks-daily-apple/[^]


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                  John C wrote:

                  And if you're thinking of losing weight

                  Not really, I'm under 11 stone as it is. It's more the fitness side of things.

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                    Well the initial reports look promising but it'd be interesting to know how a lifetime of them compares to the received wisdom.

                    John C wrote:

                    Why go jogging for an hour when you can literally get fitter in just 4 minutes of Tabata sprints?

                    See the countryside, get fresh air, talk to people, make some vitamin D... :)

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                    We go out every day to the park and go for either an approximately one hour walk or one day a week we do a warm up walk, tabata sprints then a cool down walk. Either way we're not jogging and getting plenty of fresh air and vitamin d. :)

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                    t it'd be interesting to know how a lifetime of them compares to the received wisdom.

                    Well we sure know the alternative results. Old, healthy, long distance runners or cyclists are exceedingly rare.


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                    • H hairy_hats

                      John C wrote:

                      And if you're thinking of losing weight

                      Not really, I'm under 11 stone as it is. It's more the fitness side of things.

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                      Best define "fit" before you start so that you're not just spinning cycles uselessly. These guys have a pretty solid definition of "fit": http://www.crossfit.com/[^] Fortunately they don't advocate chronic cardio either and if you want to be extremely fit and have the time to devote to it there's few better places to start.


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