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  • L Lost User

    Doug Goulden wrote:

    we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

    No doubt but I expect the true cost to the USA is significantly more than the single bullet that finished him, we should always remember those who gave their lives in the search for him. I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

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    Lost User
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    _Josh_ wrote:

    I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

    By a Berber Shop Quartet perhaps?

    The best things in life are not things.

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      _Josh_ wrote:

      I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

      By a Berber Shop Quartet perhaps?

      The best things in life are not things.

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      Lost User
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      :thumbsup:

      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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      • L Lost User

        I wonder if they would have preferred to take him alive for a nice trial and execution or if the order was to kill on sight? No doubt they'll be many more hoping to fill his shoes.

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        Slacker007
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        _Josh_ wrote:

        or if the order was to kill on sight?

        I have heard that it was a order to kill and only kill OBL and recover the body. SEAL teams did the job. They shot the fucker right in the head.

        -- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.

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        • D Doug Goulden

          I think the hassle of a trial and the idea of 100 networks covering that guy with Eric Holder wanting to have it in Manhattan........ we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

          Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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          Keith Barrow
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          Doug Goulden wrote:

          I think the hassle of a trial and the idea of 100 networks covering that guy with Eric Holder wanting to have it in Manhattan........ we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

          # Capturing him and brining him properly to trial would have been better, the US would have kept the moral high ground totally, you are now open to accusations (not that I agree with them, he set himself up as a military leader and has met the death of a military leader) that the US State-Sponsors murder. There's going to be a spate of revenge attacks, and the nut-jobs now have a new martyr to worship. To be fair they did try to capture him, but he resisted, but that's not how it'll play out in the media in the East.

          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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          • D Doug Goulden

            Apparently we are waiting for the announcement that Osama bin Laden was killed by a bomb from Obama Finally :cool:

            Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            Lost User
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            I read they buried it at sea. Sounds odd since the world would expect a lot of proof.

            Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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              Doug Goulden wrote:

              we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

              No doubt but I expect the true cost to the USA is significantly more than the single bullet that finished him, we should always remember those who gave their lives in the search for him. I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

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              Lost User
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              _Josh_ wrote:

              I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

              And I hope the gravy is restrained.

              Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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              • L Lost User

                Doug Goulden wrote:

                we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

                No doubt but I expect the true cost to the USA is significantly more than the single bullet that finished him, we should always remember those who gave their lives in the search for him. I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

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                fjdiewornncalwe
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                I believe I heard that the number of American soldiers killed or injured in the last 10 years as a result of the war on terror was near 47,000. That number apparently didn't include soldiers from other nations. I believe I heard this from MSNBC last night, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly.

                I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                • L Lost User

                  The body has already been buried at sea. They are hoping Al-Qaeda will atten the funeral.

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                  Oakman
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                  Trollslayer wrote:

                  The body has already been buried at sea.

                  Sewn into a pig-skin shroud.

                  Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                    Doug Goulden wrote:

                    I think the hassle of a trial and the idea of 100 networks covering that guy with Eric Holder wanting to have it in Manhattan........ we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

                    # Capturing him and brining him properly to trial would have been better, the US would have kept the moral high ground totally, you are now open to accusations (not that I agree with them, he set himself up as a military leader and has met the death of a military leader) that the US State-Sponsors murder. There's going to be a spate of revenge attacks, and the nut-jobs now have a new martyr to worship. To be fair they did try to capture him, but he resisted, but that's not how it'll play out in the media in the East.

                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                    -Or-
                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    Oakman
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                    Keith Barrow wrote:

                    the US would have kept the moral high ground totally

                    Our "moral high ground" was so high that the pig-sucking creep could have been slowly choked to death on feces without us losing it.

                    Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                      Doug Goulden wrote:

                      I think the hassle of a trial and the idea of 100 networks covering that guy with Eric Holder wanting to have it in Manhattan........ we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

                      # Capturing him and brining him properly to trial would have been better, the US would have kept the moral high ground totally, you are now open to accusations (not that I agree with them, he set himself up as a military leader and has met the death of a military leader) that the US State-Sponsors murder. There's going to be a spate of revenge attacks, and the nut-jobs now have a new martyr to worship. To be fair they did try to capture him, but he resisted, but that's not how it'll play out in the media in the East.

                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                      -Or-
                      A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                      Doug Goulden
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                      High moral ground is fine in a civil case, this man and the people in his organization don't deserve the civil rights and processes we give criminals in our country. As for due process, he already confessed, so what good is it to have himm and a bunch of high paid lawyers calling for side bar discussions with a hand wrining judge?

                      Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                        I read they buried it at sea. Sounds odd since the world would expect a lot of proof.

                        Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

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                        Oakman
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                        fat_boy wrote:

                        Sounds odd

                        Kinda hard to turn an ocean into a memorial sight. All the little Islamists won't be able to pray to their new saint.

                        Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          Sounds odd

                          Kinda hard to turn an ocean into a memorial sight. All the little Islamists won't be able to pray to their new saint.

                          Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                          Lost User
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                          I'm waiting for a few to try.

                          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                            Doug Goulden wrote:

                            we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

                            No doubt but I expect the true cost to the USA is significantly more than the single bullet that finished him, we should always remember those who gave their lives in the search for him. I hope the 'celebration' is refrained.

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                            Doug Goulden
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                            Way more than 25 cents overall, I just look at it as 25 cents worth of punctuation to the story.

                            Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                              High moral ground is fine in a civil case, this man and the people in his organization don't deserve the civil rights and processes we give criminals in our country. As for due process, he already confessed, so what good is it to have himm and a bunch of high paid lawyers calling for side bar discussions with a hand wrining judge?

                              Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                              Keith Barrow
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                              Doug Goulden wrote:

                              As for due process, he already confessed, so what good is it to have himm and a bunch of high paid lawyers calling for side bar discussions with a hand wrining judge

                              Because a highly public trial will bring out his attacks on fellow Muslims, which would deal a huge amount damage his reputation here. Not only that his US victims would become "real people" rather than "the enemy" in the minds of at least some of those who think that way. The propaganda potential was huge.

                              Doug Goulden wrote:

                              High moral ground is fine in a civil case, this man and the people in his organization don't deserve the civil rights and processes we give criminals in our country

                              And you can make that judgement? Where do you draw the line? Terrorists? People suspected of terrorism? People who disagree with your way of life? People who demonstrate? I've lived with terrorism all my life thanks to the [erstwhile largely US-funded] IRA, and I'd want any of them and the Islamist terrorists who followed, brought to trial in preference to outright killing. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy you got him, it would have just played better in the rest of the world if he'd been captured and brought to trial.

                              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                              -Or-
                              A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                Keith Barrow wrote:

                                the US would have kept the moral high ground totally

                                Our "moral high ground" was so high that the pig-sucking creep could have been slowly choked to death on feces without us losing it.

                                Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                Keith Barrow
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                                Agreed, don't get me wrong. But in large parts of the world it won't play that way, and that's the war you need to win IMO. Actually capturing him would have been a huge coup and I think it could have been manipulated to the US's advantage more.

                                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                -Or-
                                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                  Doug Goulden wrote:

                                  I think the hassle of a trial and the idea of 100 networks covering that guy with Eric Holder wanting to have it in Manhattan........ we were way better of spending the 25 cents on a bullet.

                                  # Capturing him and brining him properly to trial would have been better, the US would have kept the moral high ground totally, you are now open to accusations (not that I agree with them, he set himself up as a military leader and has met the death of a military leader) that the US State-Sponsors murder. There's going to be a spate of revenge attacks, and the nut-jobs now have a new martyr to worship. To be fair they did try to capture him, but he resisted, but that's not how it'll play out in the media in the East.

                                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                  -Or-
                                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                  Keith Barrow wrote:

                                  US would have kept the moral high ground totally

                                  Another myth about the US. We always concede the moral high ground whenever our 'national interests' are concerned. If our media did their job they'd show us how truly hypocritical our leaders were in their actions and words. Not even 2 years ago people were congratulating Gaddafi, specifically McCain. It's hard to have the high ground when your really only concerned with yourself, but say you're a great humanitarian. He was trying to push through an arms sale, just like Saddam. If we really wanted to create some moral high ground we'd stop selling weapons to two bit state sponsoring terrorists posing as leaders of legitimate sovereign nations. But I digress, that won't happen anymore likely than pigs flying and me getting sucked into a computer generated world like Tron.

                                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                  • O Oakman

                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    The body has already been buried at sea.

                                    Sewn into a pig-skin shroud.

                                    Never mind who, where is John Galt when we need him?

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                                    "We are ensuring it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition. It's something we take seriously and therefore it's being handled in an appropriate manner.‬"[^]

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