Data Piracy, or Legitimatized Hacking ?
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
GAMerritt wrote:
Comments, anyone?
You should include a TLDR too.
Regards, Nish
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GAMerritt wrote:
Comments, anyone?
You should include a TLDR too.
Regards, Nish
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I read the first sentence! Then it was TLDR... :laugh:
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
Even VBScripts can execute SQL's on the WMI provider to collect machine data. Malicious software vendors would do anything to get your personal data and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
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Even VBScripts can execute SQL's on the WMI provider to collect machine data. Malicious software vendors would do anything to get your personal data and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
SimulationofSai wrote:
...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
GAMerritt wrote:
It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries ... blah .... blah ... blah ... blah
Who is the they that you are referring to? Oh, and SQL is no more an answer for a security issue than laws are going to stop people from stealing. :)
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GAMerritt wrote:
Comments, anyone?
You should include a TLDR too.
Regards, Nish
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
Ok, that's a bit long. I've always felt that there should be a firewall-like thing that intercepts such malicious data gathering and lets you choose between allowing it, denying it or returning some custom value that could be a complete lie. Something like that doesn't appear to exist yet, but I'm sure there's a market for it. I for one don't like it if Any program (not even Steam or such) is able to uniquely identify my computer.
modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 11:37 AM
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of your text, by extracting just every 42nd word:
It to problem proposing sense local available the to the there way is unobtrusive individual inclusion comprehensiveness in they I'm DOMAIN cost, security until any which there your harmed which after simply glasses. ought individuals
I think it is about as readable.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Even VBScripts can execute SQL's on the WMI provider to collect machine data. Malicious software vendors would do anything to get your personal data and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
SimulationofSai wrote:
Malicious software vendors would do anything to get your personal data and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
Yes and no. The (US) CAN SPAM[^] act did a lot to help with the spam problem. Not by stopping the illegal spammers, but by forcing legit merchants to cut back on questionable tactics, making it much easier for a heuristic to guess if a message is spam of legitimate opt in marketing. If ( :laugh: ) marketers had to go through a standard API that could be filtered by antisnoopware software something similar could be achieved here. **IF**... :laugh:
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
Sorry, but I got bored after reading the 38th paragraph.
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SimulationofSai wrote:
...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Should this be in soapbox? Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing. When I grew up if you lost your license to drive you did not drive, now they do not think twice about still driving. :((
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Ok, that's a bit long. I've always felt that there should be a firewall-like thing that intercepts such malicious data gathering and lets you choose between allowing it, denying it or returning some custom value that could be a complete lie. Something like that doesn't appear to exist yet, but I'm sure there's a market for it. I for one don't like it if Any program (not even Steam or such) is able to uniquely identify my computer.
modified on Monday, May 2, 2011 11:37 AM
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SimulationofSai wrote:
...and a silly stamp from a court will do nothing to hinder them.
Yep, that's like the US passing a lwa that says criminals can't legally own guns. By their very nature, a criminal won't obey the law, so what do you really expect the outcome to be? Once again, nothing changes.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Felony convictions do currently bar one from legally owning a gun. What good that's doing...
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Should this be in soapbox? Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing. When I grew up if you lost your license to drive you did not drive, now they do not think twice about still driving. :((
djj55 wrote:
Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing.
Huh? I thoughtonly liberals thought this.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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I have taken the liberty of providing a summary of your text, by extracting just every 42nd word:
It to problem proposing sense local available the to the there way is unobtrusive individual inclusion comprehensiveness in they I'm DOMAIN cost, security until any which there your harmed which after simply glasses. ought individuals
I think it is about as readable.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
LOL. Did you use SQL to do that? :laugh:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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djj55 wrote:
Problem with people in the US is, they have been taught that people will do the right thing.
Huh? I thoughtonly liberals thought this.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
They are doing the teaching. :)
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They are doing the teaching. :)
These days you mean, striking?
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It seems to me that they should be required to use SQL queries to collect the data they want from your computer system rather than being allowed to install tasks which run autonomously and without your express consent. If they were required to use SQL, connecting only to specialized provider modules which you install and configure in your system and which only provide data after you have inspected as much of the report they are asking for as you like, much of the privacy problem could be avoided because the individual could assess each data item in accordance with their own standards for personal privacy. To my knowledge, no one has offered to design such a provider, nor have I ever heard of anyone proposing an adequate interface which could support this. If a suitable solution in this respect could be found, it could defer the really tough privacy issues without taking the risk of doing anyone personal damage in the meantime; and there is no sense in hurrying the law when it comes to adapting generalized rulings which would affect constitutional rights and privileges without providing precedents which could be applied fairly in all special cases. Not everyone has an SQL server installed on their local computer, of course; and the operating system administrative management tools are not designed to filter, collate, and publish the underlying details of your operating system's functioning as well as your habitual usage of it, even though system logs and counters are available to the individual possessing administrative privileges (for instance, in the Windows Management Instrumentation objects, if you are running a modern Windows operating system) and can be used to collect a great deal of extremely detailed information even from remote systems using the Remote Procedure Call mechanisms. But the average person is not going to be paid or adequately compensated for their time spent in collecting the information these agents want; and it is beyond the knowledge and expertise of the average computer user to install, configure, maintain, and operate the kind of software instrumentation which this sort of data collection requires. So you're not going to be paid to go to school to learn how to do it, you're not going to be reimbursed for the cost of the software you would need to do it if you did have the time and expertise to deliver what these agents want, and in any event they aren't going to pay you even a nickel here or a dime there for whatever data you collect for them in a situation where yo
GAMerritt wrote:
Comments, anyone?
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