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VS 2010 color config - am I missing something?

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  • S S Houghtelin

    Christopher Duncan wrote:

    Am I missing something obvious here,

    This is how M$ assures that everybody starts at the same point when they roll out the new platform. They just make the settings harder to find to demonstrate how complicated it really is. They hope that you will pay for the seminars and conferences to "learn" the new improved interface. :sigh:

    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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    Occam's razor: If it looks like it was designed by baboons, it probably was. :)

    Best wishes, Hans


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      From the description he made, I think that he can only open one side of the case.

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      Hans Dietrich
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      ...and the lenses are in a separate case. :laugh:

      Best wishes, Hans


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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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        Hans Dietrich
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        These may help: Visual Studio 2010 Color Theme Editor Visual Studio color schemes

        Best wishes, Hans


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        • C Christopher Duncan

          I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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          So? Edit the XML. :badger:

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          • C Christopher Duncan

            I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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            This is total heresay but I suspect some of the limitations/changes in Visual Studio 2010 has to do with the fact that the code editor was re-written in WPF. We have found many places where it is harder to do certain coloring things with WPF than it was before. It would've been nice if, when faced with the limitations, MS would fix them rather than do what we have to do and workaround them. And by workaround I sometimes mean "remove an existing feature." But again, I'm guessing, it could be unrelated. Sean

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it.

              Ooh no! I just lurve my syntax highlighting.

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              • S S Houghtelin

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Am I missing something obvious here,

                This is how M$ assures that everybody starts at the same point when they roll out the new platform. They just make the settings harder to find to demonstrate how complicated it really is. They hope that you will pay for the seminars and conferences to "learn" the new improved interface. :sigh:

                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                Charles Oppermann
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                S Houghtelin wrote:

                This is how M$ assures that everybody starts at the same point when they roll out the new platform.

                Are you joking?

                They just make the settings harder to find to demonstrate how complicated it really is.

                The settings for fonts and colors in VS2010 are exactly the same as it is in VS2005 and is accessed in the same manner.

                They hope that you will pay for the seminars and conferences to "learn" the new improved interface. :sigh:

                Yeah, that's the plan. Make the software harder for the millions of people who use it. I guess the 2,000 or so people who attend the Microsoft Professional Developer Conference each year are lining Microsoft's coffers with cash. But wait! If you attended the 2005 PDC and got the super-secret low-down on how The Fonts and Colors panel really works, then you've been able to screw M$ out of all that cash they would have otherwise made. I do hope you were joking.

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                  S Houghtelin wrote:

                  This is how M$ assures that everybody starts at the same point when they roll out the new platform.

                  Are you joking?

                  They just make the settings harder to find to demonstrate how complicated it really is.

                  The settings for fonts and colors in VS2010 are exactly the same as it is in VS2005 and is accessed in the same manner.

                  They hope that you will pay for the seminars and conferences to "learn" the new improved interface. :sigh:

                  Yeah, that's the plan. Make the software harder for the millions of people who use it. I guess the 2,000 or so people who attend the Microsoft Professional Developer Conference each year are lining Microsoft's coffers with cash. But wait! If you attended the 2005 PDC and got the super-secret low-down on how The Fonts and Colors panel really works, then you've been able to screw M$ out of all that cash they would have otherwise made. I do hope you were joking.

                  /* Charles Oppermann */ http://weblogs.asp.net/chuckop

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                  S Houghtelin
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                  Yes, it was a joke! I'm sorry if anyone has taken offense. :( I suppose I should have put it under the joke icon, I am surprised that some took it seriously. For the record, I seriously doubt that Microsoft would actually change how to access features just to charge people money to learn how to access them. (Microsoft VS is one of the tools I use to make my living. And yes they do get plenty of money from the MSDN subscriptions and licenses from my company)

                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    Yes, it was a joke! I'm sorry if anyone has taken offense. :( I suppose I should have put it under the joke icon, I am surprised that some took it seriously. For the record, I seriously doubt that Microsoft would actually change how to access features just to charge people money to learn how to access them. (Microsoft VS is one of the tools I use to make my living. And yes they do get plenty of money from the MSDN subscriptions and licenses from my company)

                    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                    My apologies. I need to recalibrate my sarcasm detector. :-O

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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                      After resisting them initially (initially spans years), I now believe they are very helpful. > The darker schemes are certainly friendly to the eyes. > Having a different color scheme does help impart the 'geek'y attribute to you especially when most of the developers around you live with the default scheme. Changing them individually is a pain. I started with a dark theme and modified few settings to my liking. This way, I din't have to change a whole lot. I still don't like the VS theme switching (maybe the default theme is what I find the best).

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                        I've never been a big fan of the Walt Disney approach to text editor color schemes, so the first thing I typically do when setting up a new install is spin through the colors of the editor and switch them all to black on white. Okay, I set the comments to blue, but that's pretty much it. It's tedious enough as it is since I have to manually set each and every option, one at a time (note to MS VS devs: there's this new feature called multiple select, you might want to go to a conference and learn about it). However, in going through this exercise with VS 2010, it's even worse. In a number of options (selected text, for example), either the foreground or background selection controls are disabled, forcing me to live with the colors VS comes with. Uh, isn't the point of "options" the ability to change them? Am I missing something obvious here, or have they taken away my ability to completely control the colors used in the VS editor? If there's a switch to flip somewhere, I'd love to know about it. The only thing I can find to flip at the moment is... oops - there's my kid sister again. Dang!

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011

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                        Hired Mind
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                        I can't speak to the ability to change foregrounds/backgrounds on certain elements. I suspect it has to do with a particular element only changing the back/foreground, and relying on another element to provide the other one. But you can save yourself a lot of time by simply saving off your settings: Tools->Import and Export Settings At least you'll only have to do it once, and it saves all your keyboard customizations and many other things too.

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