I wonder if OBL
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shit his pants before or after he was executed? It's only natural that some of the Pakistan Government and military talk shit about the United States after we embarrassed the crap out of them. Whether or not our military went about this operation the right way, means absolutely nothing to me (in this case) because it resulted in the execution of walking turd nugget. What do you do with a turd? You flush it down the toilet not take it to court.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Whether or not our military went about this operation the right way, means absolutely nothing to me
Actually, it means a lot. The US military tried to kill him several times in the past. Pakistan was purportedly an ally of the US for each such operation that was executed (that cost HUGE amounts of money), and the US shared military intelligence with Pakistan as they "needed" to know what, and how is going to happen too. This time around, it appeared that the US had a little doubt over Pakistan's "support" and they went on with the operation WITHOUT keeping the Pakistani government in loop. The result was obvious, and it gives rise to many questions. As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Whether or not our military went about this operation the right way, means absolutely nothing to me
Actually, it means a lot. The US military tried to kill him several times in the past. Pakistan was purportedly an ally of the US for each such operation that was executed (that cost HUGE amounts of money), and the US shared military intelligence with Pakistan as they "needed" to know what, and how is going to happen too. This time around, it appeared that the US had a little doubt over Pakistan's "support" and they went on with the operation WITHOUT keeping the Pakistani government in loop. The result was obvious, and it gives rise to many questions. As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
I'm sure you know this already but the United States did this mission without Pakistan's involement because Pakistan Government and local police are corrupt and they would have alerted OBL before we arrived to perform the mission. Actually, it still means nothing to me. I am glad he was executed and his body donated as fish food. Fuck him.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
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I'm sure you know this already but the United States did this mission without Pakistan's involement because Pakistan Government and local police are corrupt and they would have alerted OBL before we arrived to perform the mission. Actually, it still means nothing to me. I am glad he was executed and his body donated as fish food. Fuck him.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
Slacker007 wrote:
I'm sure you know this already but the United States did this mission without Pakistan's involement because Pakistan Government and local police are corrupt and they would have alerted OBL before we arrived to perform the mission.
I knew it, and that's why I said you guys did the right thing by distrusting those little bastards this time around. Also, at many places in Pakistan, there was chaos and panic, and they were burning the US flag because they "murdered" their leader. I think a gunship flying around, shooting the heck out of those bastards would have been appropriate. Another annoying thing was that the "islamic religious leaders" around the world were complaining because this piece of shit's body isn't being buried according to islamic rituals. Seriously, WTF?! :wtf: At least his crappy body was being used as food for some fishes and crabs, which I think is more than what that body deserved. His soul can then go STRAIGHT to hell after that.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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I'm sure you know this already but the United States did this mission without Pakistan's involement because Pakistan Government and local police are corrupt and they would have alerted OBL before we arrived to perform the mission. Actually, it still means nothing to me. I am glad he was executed and his body donated as fish food. Fuck him.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
At times I wish I weren't living in this country of mine, because there's way too much sensitivity and "love for peace". I love the US for what they do in these matters. One of the terrorists who was captured in the Mumbai attacks is still being kept in prison and his trial is on. Seriously, WTF?! I wish they fuck peace this one time and shoot the hell out of him, or release him to the public and have them tear him apart into pieces.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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At times I wish I weren't living in this country of mine, because there's way too much sensitivity and "love for peace". I love the US for what they do in these matters. One of the terrorists who was captured in the Mumbai attacks is still being kept in prison and his trial is on. Seriously, WTF?! I wish they fuck peace this one time and shoot the hell out of him, or release him to the public and have them tear him apart into pieces.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
One of the terrorists who was captured in the Mumbai attacks is still being kept in prison and his trial is on.
Crores are spent for his "safety" and he wants to have "chicken biryani". Although the judgement had been given that he will be hanged, he is still waiting in a long line, 13th position to be precise. Me thinks he will never be hanged and will die in prison itself, just like others. :sigh:
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Slacker007 wrote:
Whether or not our military went about this operation the right way, means absolutely nothing to me
Actually, it means a lot. The US military tried to kill him several times in the past. Pakistan was purportedly an ally of the US for each such operation that was executed (that cost HUGE amounts of money), and the US shared military intelligence with Pakistan as they "needed" to know what, and how is going to happen too. This time around, it appeared that the US had a little doubt over Pakistan's "support" and they went on with the operation WITHOUT keeping the Pakistani government in loop. The result was obvious, and it gives rise to many questions. As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Although it is good that OBL is dead, but there are problems. Now, if there is some kind of outburst in Pakistan and US thinks to attack them just like Iraq or Afghanistan, India will have a lot problems. Pakistan is almost over and this thing accelerated very quickly after US attack on Afghan. I suspect similar to happen in border states especially Punjab and Rajasthan. BTW I totally agree with your comment of not including double-faced Pak government.
"The worst code you'll come across is code you wrote last year.", wizardzz[^]
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At times I wish I weren't living in this country of mine, because there's way too much sensitivity and "love for peace". I love the US for what they do in these matters. One of the terrorists who was captured in the Mumbai attacks is still being kept in prison and his trial is on. Seriously, WTF?! I wish they fuck peace this one time and shoot the hell out of him, or release him to the public and have them tear him apart into pieces.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
That is how we work. It is sad but true. I would have been happy if one of the policemen would have brutally shot him dead on a surveillance camera. A bloody battered body and devilish laugh would have set great new image and probably a bit of fear in other similar fuckers.
"The worst code you'll come across is code you wrote last year.", wizardzz[^]
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Although it is good that OBL is dead, but there are problems. Now, if there is some kind of outburst in Pakistan and US thinks to attack them just like Iraq or Afghanistan, India will have a lot problems. Pakistan is almost over and this thing accelerated very quickly after US attack on Afghan. I suspect similar to happen in border states especially Punjab and Rajasthan. BTW I totally agree with your comment of not including double-faced Pak government.
"The worst code you'll come across is code you wrote last year.", wizardzz[^]
Even if our problems double in size with Pakistan, I don't think the United States wants to invade or bring our military to Pakistan like Afghanistan/Iraq...our relationship with India is very, very important to our government our business entities in my country. Pakistan got caught with their pants down around their ankles and now they are crying for mommy. To be expected.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
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Even if our problems double in size with Pakistan, I don't think the United States wants to invade or bring our military to Pakistan like Afghanistan/Iraq...our relationship with India is very, very important to our government our business entities in my country. Pakistan got caught with their pants down around their ankles and now they are crying for mommy. To be expected.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
Actually, there's only one reason the US won't invade Pakistan. They have nukes.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Actually, there's only one reason the US won't invade Pakistan. They have nukes.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)That's like negotiating with terrorists. If that's really a valid reason not to invade them (instead of a valid reason to invade them ASAP, which makes more sense) then the Axis of Evil has an excellent reason to make lots of nukes. I say nuke their nukes before they have even thought about using them.
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That's like negotiating with terrorists. If that's really a valid reason not to invade them (instead of a valid reason to invade them ASAP, which makes more sense) then the Axis of Evil has an excellent reason to make lots of nukes. I say nuke their nukes before they have even thought about using them.
David1987 wrote:
I say nuke their nukes before they have even thought about using them.
Man, I'm glad you're not running the country... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_strike[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Second_strike_capability[^]
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David1987 wrote:
I say nuke their nukes before they have even thought about using them.
Man, I'm glad you're not running the country... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_strike[^] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Second_strike_capability[^]
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You're still negotiating with terrorists. As soon as you allow that sort of thing to be an issue, you're giving the Axis of Evil a lot of power. (also I don't care whether the US survives but whatever)
So you're one of those people who define "terrorists" as "everyone but us", right? Yeah, this conversation is pointless... Moving on.
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So you're one of those people who define "terrorists" as "everyone but us", right? Yeah, this conversation is pointless... Moving on.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I don't think you got my point. If Second Strike capability is taken seriously, Iran et all will use that as a way to become "invulnerable". So you're better off taking some risks to send the message that having Second Strike capability gets you nothing. Pakistan obviously already did, so it's a tiny bit late. edit: And yes, I equate that with negotiating with terrorists, because it's the same idea. As soon as you start doing that, bad guys will use it to get what they want.
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Even if our problems double in size with Pakistan, I don't think the United States wants to invade or bring our military to Pakistan like Afghanistan/Iraq...our relationship with India is very, very important to our government our business entities in my country. Pakistan got caught with their pants down around their ankles and now they are crying for mommy. To be expected.
-- You don't hire a handyman to build a house, you hire a specialist.
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Actually, there's only one reason the US won't invade Pakistan. They have nukes.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)and a war with Pak is essentially a war with China.
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and a war with Pak is essentially a war with China.
Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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I have a feeling if it was nuclear, there would be a Chinese response. They are supplying munitions to anyone they can, but hypocritically, it's a big no-no for the U.S. to sell arms to Taiwan. Pak wants to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, but I don't know if both India and Pak would be allowed.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Whether or not our military went about this operation the right way, means absolutely nothing to me
Actually, it means a lot. The US military tried to kill him several times in the past. Pakistan was purportedly an ally of the US for each such operation that was executed (that cost HUGE amounts of money), and the US shared military intelligence with Pakistan as they "needed" to know what, and how is going to happen too. This time around, it appeared that the US had a little doubt over Pakistan's "support" and they went on with the operation WITHOUT keeping the Pakistani government in loop. The result was obvious, and it gives rise to many questions. As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
Yup you are right. Pakistan is harbouring the terrorists. Out of top 10 most wanted person's list issued by USA, none is a Pakistani but there is an indian. But still Pakistan is responsible for that. Why is that so? If I include Osama Bin Laden in the top most wanted list, this will bring the count to 11, only 3 are muslims, but Islam is potrayed as terrorist religion. What are you to say about remaining 8?
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
As an Indian who has lived for several years next to a country that harbours terrorists, I can tell you that you guys did the correct thing in distrusting Pakistan in this operation.
Yup you are right. Pakistan is harbouring the terrorists. Out of top 10 most wanted person's list issued by USA, none is a Pakistani but there is an indian. But still Pakistan is responsible for that. Why is that so? If I include Osama Bin Laden in the top most wanted list, this will bring the count to 11, only 3 are muslims, but Islam is potrayed as terrorist religion. What are you to say about remaining 8?
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Umair Feroze wrote:
Yup you are right. Pakistan is harbouring the terrorists.
Yes, that is right, even if you don't acknowledge that.
Umair Feroze wrote:
Out of top 10 most wanted person's list issued by USA, none is a Pakistani but there is an indian. But still Pakistan is responsible for that. Why is that so?
I said Pakistan is "responsible" for what? I said that Pakistan helps those terrorists hide in, and operate from there. Are you even TRYING to tell that Pakistan does not have terrorists of their own? Like, by blaming that there's an Indian in the most wanted list, you think you could make Pakistan look any better? What about the arseholes who came in and carried out the Mumbai attack? The bastard who's eating our food in our prison, Kasab... He's a Pakistani, you know? And all the ones who were involved in that operation (and many other terrorist operations) are Pakistanis.
Umair Feroze wrote:
but Islam is potrayed as terrorist religion.
I NEVER said Islam as a terrorist religion. You're making that shit up, because you don't have a point to argue at all. While feel bad for the common men living there, I will be glad if more operations like geronimo gets carried out within Pakistan, by the US and other countries, and all terrorists were killed like pigs. That way, may be the good people there will get a new life.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.