The Internet in India
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Its obviously traffic throtteling, because of slow links. Seems fair, but then you lack the wealth to implelement a fast system. Its all about money income per square mile compared to the cost of setup. In France we also only get slow links, there just isnt the density of userers to warrant any investement. And we arent that rural. Some parts still have to use dialup.
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Its obviously traffic throtteling, because of slow links. Seems fair, but then you lack the wealth to implelement a fast system. Its all about money income per square mile compared to the cost of setup. In France we also only get slow links, there just isnt the density of userers to warrant any investement. And we arent that rural. Some parts still have to use dialup.
Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost
Actually we have a lot of Internet users today. A LOT of them compared to the dwarfed size in the early 2000s. It's really about time that higher speeds became affordable when the rest of the world calls 1 mbps or 2 mbps or even 4 mbps common. I'm talking about places where Internet users are moderate to high.
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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As you know broadband (ADSL/ADSL2) rates are dependant on line quality/distance from exchange etc. Maybe its a case of there are many long lengths from exchanges and there is no benefit from offering higher rates on existing copper lines?
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS.
Why complain about internet speed? There got to be a lot of things average person in India cannot afford.
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As you know broadband (ADSL/ADSL2) rates are dependant on line quality/distance from exchange etc. Maybe its a case of there are many long lengths from exchanges and there is no benefit from offering higher rates on existing copper lines?
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Over here we have speeds up to 16 mbps on non-business connections but the cost of obtaining even a 4 mbps unlimited connection would be even 3 times of what you would pay outside India. :( The real problem here is the affordability. Even after 2 to 4 years, we have yet to see good speeds fall within an acceptable price range. :(
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS.
Why complain about internet speed? There got to be a lot of things average person in India cannot afford.
I'm quite sure that there are many things which many people around the world cannot afford. However, I'm afraid that this topic is solely created for the purpose of discussing only about the Internet. We have a decent speed system in place. But the pricing they inflict is outright unacceptable when you can pay the same rate we pay for a 512 KBPS and get like a 4mbps connection outside India.
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS.
Why complain about internet speed? There got to be a lot of things average person in India cannot afford.
Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:
There got to be a lot of things average person in India cannot afford.
I can't afford experts-exchange subscription that is why I come here............:suss:
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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FUP is there to prevent someone buying a residential contract and then using it for high traffic commercial use. It can also be used to prevent bandwidth hogs who spend all day downloading the uploading torrents of the latest holywood/bolywood/pronwood movies.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
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Actually we have a lot of Internet users today. A LOT of them compared to the dwarfed size in the early 2000s. It's really about time that higher speeds became affordable when the rest of the world calls 1 mbps or 2 mbps or even 4 mbps common. I'm talking about places where Internet users are moderate to high.
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Yes, but fat_boy is right (And it's not often I say that!) It's all about infrastructure. In order to get high bit rates, you need high quality signals, and a fat pipe to connect the ISP to the net. To get high quality signals, you need high quality wiring, and exchanges, and you have to be close to the exchange. The last, you can do something about: move nearer. The rest costs the telephone company / ISP money, in huge wads. The fat pipe is also an expensive option, it may need new under sea cables, or overland (which is even more expensive). It will come: there is obviously a need, but unless you are prepared to pay for the infrastructure changes needed, you will have to wait until the ISP's pay for it!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
What do you guys think?
It's too early to think.
Watched code never compiles.
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FUP is there to prevent someone buying a residential contract and then using it for high traffic commercial use. It can also be used to prevent bandwidth hogs who spend all day downloading the uploading torrents of the latest holywood/bolywood/pronwood movies.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
Makes sense. We would be fine with the FUP system in place if we at least got higher speeds. more than about 4 years and still nothing much seems to have changed at all.
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Yes, but fat_boy is right (And it's not often I say that!) It's all about infrastructure. In order to get high bit rates, you need high quality signals, and a fat pipe to connect the ISP to the net. To get high quality signals, you need high quality wiring, and exchanges, and you have to be close to the exchange. The last, you can do something about: move nearer. The rest costs the telephone company / ISP money, in huge wads. The fat pipe is also an expensive option, it may need new under sea cables, or overland (which is even more expensive). It will come: there is obviously a need, but unless you are prepared to pay for the infrastructure changes needed, you will have to wait until the ISP's pay for it!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
We already have speeds like 4 mbps and above till about 16 mbps going around here. The real problem is what I told Dave: the pricing is ridiculous and it's been more than 4 years.
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FUP is there to prevent someone buying a residential contract and then using it for high traffic commercial use. It can also be used to prevent bandwidth hogs who spend all day downloading the uploading torrents of the latest holywood/bolywood/pronwood movies.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
What do you guys think?
It's too early to think.
Watched code never compiles.
I would appreciate your post better if it had contained a valid argument/fact.
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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My internet connection has a FUP. But it appears to have a different notion of what is fair - I've used nearly 1TB of bandwidth in some months and that was OK. They never mention any actual numbers that you shouldn't go over, and the only "punishment" they mention is a warning letter (which I never received).
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My internet connection has a FUP. But it appears to have a different notion of what is fair - I've used nearly 1TB of bandwidth in some months and that was OK. They never mention any actual numbers that you shouldn't go over, and the only "punishment" they mention is a warning letter (which I never received).
Wow! 1 TB is a lot. Speaking of that, a FUP system is perfectly acceptable with a decent speed which is affordable and reasonable. For example, just by browsing with very minimal Youtube usage with an occasional download which doesn't even come near 300 to 500 MB let alone 1 GB files, the transfer limit exceeds the 8GB limit on my connection in less than 20 days. And I have to tell you that I don't use torrents at all in this period as well. The FUP limit offered is sort of sad along with the high price tag for a good speed.
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Broadband could be a little cheaper than what it is, but I think that the data transfer limits are there for a good reason. I've a 25 Gig/month data transfer limit, and I find it far more than sufficient.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Broadband could be a little cheaper than what it is, but I think that the data transfer limits are there for a good reason. I've a 25 Gig/month data transfer limit, and I find it far more than sufficient.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Yeah would be good to see some prices go down. It's about time they did that. :( By the way what speed do you use with a 25 GB limit?
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Capitalism at its best! What is there to gain from them giving you more for your money? You need real competition (not just competition in name). Like gasoline prices in the US, a-nod-and-a-wink and the prices at all the companies goes up together - quickly - and down slowly. The profits are at record levels. Implication? They all raised the prices more than is necessary to keep up with the price of oil. What about competition? Why do I hear you laughing ? ? So, the same with your ISP's. It's in none of their interests to start cutting prices (or even start price war). My provider (15 MB/s) throttles uploads [a common practice] to 2 Mb/s. The reality of this (it seems) is that if you up-load, you're really demanding the maximum bandwidth, whilst if downloading, you'll only get (at most) data rates based on your sender. They really never need to supply anywhere near the advertised bandwidth. This cost $50 US/month. No options for slower rates . . . but now they've a near continuous sale price of ca. $30/month as part of a telephone/cable TV bundle. That is because Verizon is now competing with them directly. Verizon, too, has had to bite-the-bullet, frequently dropping its insistence on a contract since their competitor doesn't. In either case, the price goes up after 12 months . . . . . . however, a loyal customer, such as myself, will explain to them that either they keep my rate 'down' or I'll switch to their competitor. At this point, their business records now show that I mean it. But, more directly on topic: put yourself in your ISP's position . . . why lower prices? For them, things are fine as they are.
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Disclaimer: We are not responsible for those dying of shock by looking at the abyssmal internet speeds offered here in our country. For safety guidelines please consult your doctor. Does any country have something as ridiculous as a term called "Fair Usage Policy(FUP)"? For those who are unaware here is an example: Let's say that you have a 512 KBPS Unlimited connection. Now according to FUP, there's a 8GB "limit" for 512, 15 GB for 1 mbps and so on. Once you cross this limit, your speed will be cut to 256 KBPS for the rest of the month. The average person in India cannot afford connection speeds which go higher than 512 KBPS or 1 MBPS. Yes you heard that right. KBPS. It would at least serve to be a soothing balm if they offered speeds like 4 mbps or 8 mbps at an affordable rate but no. We're still stuck with the same "concept" of broadband. What do you guys think?
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Nithin Sundar wrote:
What do you guys think?
In think lots of things. I think things aren't as bad in Ireland as we thought. I think it makes sense now why I used to wait so long for offshore devs in India to turn stuff around. Reading my emails probably took you up to lunch time. I think we should all move to Nigeria. Judging by the amount of crap they spew onto the internet and into our mailboxes each day, those guys must have fibre optics inserted directly into their ass. -Richard
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