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  • L leppie

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    1. No. Never. Bad idea.

    Why is it a bad idea? How do you deal with nested types? Put them in separate files too?

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    Yes. Every class in a separate file. Since a class can be spread over several files, it is no big chore to put nested classes in a separate one. Besides, I try to avoid nested classes!

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

      1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

      2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

      3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

        void Main()
        {
        OpenOrCreateDatabase();
        LoadRecords();
        ProcessRecords();
        }

        void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
        {
        if (DatabaseExists())
        {
        OpenDatabase();
        }
        else
        {
        CreateDatabase();
        }
        }

        bool DatabaseExists()
        {
        ...
        }

        void OpenDatabase()
        {
        }

        void CreateDatabase()
        {
        }

        As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

      4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
      wrote on last edited by
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      I have a rule ... every time I think I need a region, I refactor. Regions are for bad programmers. For those of you that argue, remember exactly what category I am going to place you the second you defend a region. In general I like constructors at the bottom, members at the top, static members at the toppermost, properties after members, and then code in the middle. I have a strong preference for helper methods and private methods to be next to their associated methods. I always specify my access modifiers (public, private, etc) One thing I have experimented with is partial classes and assigning groupings in the VS project file so they show up in the tree together. It does make it easy to create a large class with a lot of properties but I still feel like it is a poor solution. I put my imports at the top. I don't care what style cop says ... (Ironically, when I pay people to code I do care what style cop says, I guess that makes me a hypocrite)

      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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      • L leppie

        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Most of my coding is Java now so it's explicitly required.

        Not my problem ;p

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        [Vilmos prepares to loose half his rep] I like Java.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Yes. Every class in a separate file. Since a class can be spread over several files, it is no big chore to put nested classes in a separate one. Besides, I try to avoid nested classes!

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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          leppie
          wrote on last edited by
          #16

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Besides, I try to avoid nested classes!

          You should not be avoiding it. It is extremely good for hiding abstractions.

          ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

            1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

            2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

            3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

              void Main()
              {
              OpenOrCreateDatabase();
              LoadRecords();
              ProcessRecords();
              }

              void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
              {
              if (DatabaseExists())
              {
              OpenDatabase();
              }
              else
              {
              CreateDatabase();
              }
              }

              bool DatabaseExists()
              {
              ...
              }

              void OpenDatabase()
              {
              }

              void CreateDatabase()
              {
              }

              As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

            4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
            wrote on last edited by
            #17

            Why are you assuming everybody writes C#/VB code?

            utf8-cpp

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              [Vilmos prepares to loose half his rep] I like Java.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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              leppie
              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

              I like Java.

              My answer stays the same :) Personally, I prefer Java over C# too, but only on Android.

              ((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x)))

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                Why are you assuming everybody writes C#/VB code?

                utf8-cpp

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                It is a language agnostic question. I do not intend it to be langauge specific. The same question applies to C++ or C or Ruby.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  It is a language agnostic question. I do not intend it to be langauge specific. The same question applies to C++ or C or Ruby.

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  It is a language agnostic question

                  How does this apply to anything but .NET?: "What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside? 3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last)."

                  utf8-cpp

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    It is a language agnostic question

                    How does this apply to anything but .NET?: "What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside? 3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last)."

                    utf8-cpp

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    Well, the original question was "ow do you organize code elements in a file?". I elaborated it in more detail for the numerous C# programmers and the one VB.NET programmer we have here.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                      1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                      2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                      3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                        void Main()
                        {
                        OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                        LoadRecords();
                        ProcessRecords();
                        }

                        void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                        {
                        if (DatabaseExists())
                        {
                        OpenDatabase();
                        }
                        else
                        {
                        CreateDatabase();
                        }
                        }

                        bool DatabaseExists()
                        {
                        ...
                        }

                        void OpenDatabase()
                        {
                        }

                        void CreateDatabase()
                        {
                        }

                        As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                      4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Well, the original question was "ow do you organize code elements in a file?". I elaborated it in more detail for the numerous C# programmers and the one VB.NET programmer we have here.

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                        I elaborated it in more detail for the numerous C# programmers and the one VB.NET programmer we have here.

                        For the numerous VB programmers and the one who publicly admits he codes in VB :)

                        utf8-cpp

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                          1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                          2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                          3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                            void Main()
                            {
                            OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                            LoadRecords();
                            ProcessRecords();
                            }

                            void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                            {
                            if (DatabaseExists())
                            {
                            OpenDatabase();
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            CreateDatabase();
                            }
                            }

                            bool DatabaseExists()
                            {
                            ...
                            }

                            void OpenDatabase()
                            {
                            }

                            void CreateDatabase()
                            {
                            }

                            As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                          4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                          Chris C B
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                          What's this? You can have more than one file in a project? Well, who knew! I just have one great big file, and lots and lots of GOTOs. :laugh: Sorry guys, but for over a month now I have been trying to buy a new camera by remote control, and finally, after much blood, sweat and tears, I have just heard that it is winging it's way to me, courtesy of DHL, and as a result I am feeling rather frivolous. :cool:

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                          • C Chris C B

                            What's this? You can have more than one file in a project? Well, who knew! I just have one great big file, and lots and lots of GOTOs. :laugh: Sorry guys, but for over a month now I have been trying to buy a new camera by remote control, and finally, after much blood, sweat and tears, I have just heard that it is winging it's way to me, courtesy of DHL, and as a result I am feeling rather frivolous. :cool:

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                            Nagy Vilmos
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #25

                            Some scrote 1'ed ya, have a batch of GOSUB's to compensate.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              Some scrote 1'ed ya, have a batch of GOSUB's to compensate.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb -- they're often *students*, for heaven's sake. -- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)

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                              Chris C B
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #26

                              Thank you Sir, you are a gentleman! :rose:

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                                1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                                2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                                3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                                  void Main()
                                  {
                                  OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                                  LoadRecords();
                                  ProcessRecords();
                                  }

                                  void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                                  {
                                  if (DatabaseExists())
                                  {
                                  OpenDatabase();
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                  CreateDatabase();
                                  }
                                  }

                                  bool DatabaseExists()
                                  {
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  void OpenDatabase()
                                  {
                                  }

                                  void CreateDatabase()
                                  {
                                  }

                                  As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                                4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                                wizardzz
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                I leave it in the order i copy and paste my codez from the interwebs ;)

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  I have a rule ... every time I think I need a region, I refactor. Regions are for bad programmers. For those of you that argue, remember exactly what category I am going to place you the second you defend a region. In general I like constructors at the bottom, members at the top, static members at the toppermost, properties after members, and then code in the middle. I have a strong preference for helper methods and private methods to be next to their associated methods. I always specify my access modifiers (public, private, etc) One thing I have experimented with is partial classes and assigning groupings in the VS project file so they show up in the tree together. It does make it easy to create a large class with a lot of properties but I still feel like it is a poor solution. I put my imports at the top. I don't care what style cop says ... (Ironically, when I pay people to code I do care what style cop says, I guess that makes me a hypocrite)

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                                  RichardGrimmer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #28

                                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                  Regions are for bad programmers.

                                  Why's that then?

                                  C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                                    1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                                    2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                                    3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                                      void Main()
                                      {
                                      OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                                      LoadRecords();
                                      ProcessRecords();
                                      }

                                      void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                                      {
                                      if (DatabaseExists())
                                      {
                                      OpenDatabase();
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                      CreateDatabase();
                                      }
                                      }

                                      bool DatabaseExists()
                                      {
                                      ...
                                      }

                                      void OpenDatabase()
                                      {
                                      }

                                      void CreateDatabase()
                                      {
                                      }

                                      As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                                    4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Yes.

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      It is a language agnostic question. I do not intend it to be langauge specific. The same question applies to C++ or C or Ruby.

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                                      Quirkafleeg
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #30

                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                      It is a language agnostic question. I do not intend it to be langauge specific. The same question applies to C++ or C or Ruby.

                                      I wouldn't say its entirely language agnostic... In C/C++ it is generally better - in large projects - to put more than 1 class per file. Otherwise the linking time when building the project becomes unmanageable and ultimately unproductive. In C#, this is less of a big deal and you can get away with putting 1 class per file - although some working on those "1,000,000+ files" projects may disagree... As for other languages I don't really use them to know.

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                                        1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                                        2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                                        3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                                          void Main()
                                          {
                                          OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                                          LoadRecords();
                                          ProcessRecords();
                                          }

                                          void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                                          {
                                          if (DatabaseExists())
                                          {
                                          OpenDatabase();
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                          CreateDatabase();
                                          }
                                          }

                                          bool DatabaseExists()
                                          {
                                          ...
                                          }

                                          void OpenDatabase()
                                          {
                                          }

                                          void CreateDatabase()
                                          {
                                          }

                                          As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                                        4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                                        Oshtri Deka
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                                        1. Most of time i keep classes separated in different files, but sometimes (really small classes :), private classes, utilities...) I prefer to keep them in one file. 2. outside. 3. I organize new and essential classes, but I avoid to do it in legacy code. Usually I use this pattern: fields, constructors, properties, methods, event handling. I create regions for each. 4. I don't think about it, No.3 is my standard, but when situation ask I adapt.

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          How do you organize classes, methods, properties and functions within a file?

                                          1. Do you put multiple classes in a single file? - If yes how do you order them.

                                          2. What about using statements (or import statements if you are John Simmons)? Do you put them outside namespaces or inside?

                                          3. Do you organize the methods and properties based on the accessibility? Stylecop default order is fields, followed by Constructors, followed by properties which are followed by methods (public come first and private last). Another way is to follow the Step Down rule. Where order is based on what method calls what. For instance, here is an example of step down rules.

                                            void Main()
                                            {
                                            OpenOrCreateDatabase();
                                            LoadRecords();
                                            ProcessRecords();
                                            }

                                            void OpenOrCreateDatabase()
                                            {
                                            if (DatabaseExists())
                                            {
                                            OpenDatabase();
                                            }
                                            else
                                            {
                                            CreateDatabase();
                                            }
                                            }

                                            bool DatabaseExists()
                                            {
                                            ...
                                            }

                                            void OpenDatabase()
                                            {
                                            }

                                            void CreateDatabase()
                                            {
                                            }

                                            As Main is the entry point it comes first followed by the very first method which it calls (OpenOrCreateDatabase). OpenOrCreateDatabase is followed by the first method which it calls, followed by the second method and so on. The idea behind the step down rule is that code is easier to read and comprehend for other.

                                          4. What are some other neat ways you have found or code organization is something you don't think about?

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                                          KramII
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          I organise my code in the One True Way - the way everyone should. 1. One file = one class, period. 2. Using statements at the top of the file, before anything else (except header comments). 3. Backwards: Private methods first, then public methods, then public properties, then constructor, then static methods. The idea is that readers get to know what each method property does, working from the inside out. When you get to the constructor and it calls a method called "PerformQuirkafleeg", you already know what a Quirkafleeg is and what happens when you perform one. 4. I think about code organisation all the time. Unfortunately, this means I change my mind quite often... but whatever I think at any given moment is "The One True Way", and should be followed by everyone.

                                          KramII

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