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Its not about wmd's. Its about oil. Oil over the next few decades as supplies start to diminish. Imagine a life without plastic ? The west wants to be a stablising influence in the region , or to put it more bluntly it wants things run its way . The democracies of the west will not tolerate this , and so it is being wrapped up as a crusade against an idiot of a leader . I happen to think that the oil supply warrents this action , many others do not.
If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? That is the question that has consumed the Bush White House for the past 15 months. Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Read more here: Bush's motive? Security[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
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Its not about wmd's. Its about oil. Oil over the next few decades as supplies start to diminish. Imagine a life without plastic ? The west wants to be a stablising influence in the region , or to put it more bluntly it wants things run its way . The democracies of the west will not tolerate this , and so it is being wrapped up as a crusade against an idiot of a leader . I happen to think that the oil supply warrents this action , many others do not.
Right, which is why the US has embargos against oil-producing countries like Iran and Libya. Oh wait. That hurts your arguement, doesn't it? (Iran has as much oil as Iraq and the US doesn't buy a drop of it.) ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Pakistan managed to create nukes without anyone noticing. The US was caught by surprise when they detonated one a few years ago. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Pakistan managed to create nukes without anyone noticing. The US was caught by surprise when they detonated one a few years ago. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Brit wrote: Pakistan managed to create nukes without anyone noticing Actually not...and no surprise at all.. Both USA and Russia were aware of Pakistan nuclear program during the entire period of 70s-90s. When Pakistan conducted first cold test in 1985, CIA report was immediately published. Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
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Andrew Torrance wrote: Its about oil I still don't get that arguement for the simple reason that the US supports Israel and not the Palestinians. If the US really wanted to become bumb chums with the Arabs they would be cheering the Palestinians on as they, the Ps not the US, bombed the Israelis. Or is there something I am missing?
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Paul Watson wrote: Or is there something I am missing? What percentage of Congress and influential powers in the States is Jewish? People always look after number one. Always. World peace and regionaly stability is an optional extra. Uh oh, I'm going to get hit with the communal anti-Semitism bat now. :|
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If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? That is the question that has consumed the Bush White House for the past 15 months. Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Read more here: Bush's motive? Security[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
Kant wrote: Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. And pigs fly.
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Paul Watson wrote: Or is there something I am missing? What percentage of Congress and influential powers in the States is Jewish? People always look after number one. Always. World peace and regionaly stability is an optional extra. Uh oh, I'm going to get hit with the communal anti-Semitism bat now. :|
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David Wulff wrote: What percentage of Congress and influential powers in the States is Jewish? I don't think any politician in the New York and Florida area would go against the Jewish community. Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
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If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? That is the question that has consumed the Bush White House for the past 15 months. Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Read more here: Bush's motive? Security[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
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Pakistan detonated only after India delcared themself "Nuclear State" after testing their nukes in 1998. Everyone now knows from where Pakistan got their Nuclear technology?? Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
I can only assume you are implying that Pakistan got it's nukes from the US. There was a very large article in Scientific American a few years ago about Pakistan's and India's nuclear program. No, they didn't get them from the US. But, then, America is always guilty of any conceivable accusation until proven innocent, isn't it, Kant? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? That is the question that has consumed the Bush White House for the past 15 months. Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Read more here: Bush's motive? Security[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? If they can kill 3,000 people using box cutters, why they need to get nuclear weapons that are difficult to find and carry around? Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Saddam used chemical weapons both in the war against Iran and aginst its own people in kurdistan. But this happened 10 yrs ago. And another country used mass destruction weapons in a war. -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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Jonathan Gilligan wrote: Perhaps the US should employ Saddam Hussein to teach us how to run an environmentally friendly nuclear weapons program. Yes, but I think that SH does not know how, exactly. He has to consult North Korea or Cuba about details. If they cannot help him, he can try with Libya, and finally, if it still does not work, Slobodan Milosevic(SM - SH) must be asked to solve the problem.
In an interview one of SH's generals stated they have everything to build a bomb with but they just haven't put it together yet! I don't know if the guy is still alive though. ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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Its not about wmd's. Its about oil. Oil over the next few decades as supplies start to diminish. Imagine a life without plastic ? The west wants to be a stablising influence in the region , or to put it more bluntly it wants things run its way . The democracies of the west will not tolerate this , and so it is being wrapped up as a crusade against an idiot of a leader . I happen to think that the oil supply warrents this action , many others do not.
Andrew Torrance wrote: Its about oil. Then, when are we invading Venezuela?
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I can only assume you are implying that Pakistan got it's nukes from the US. There was a very large article in Scientific American a few years ago about Pakistan's and India's nuclear program. No, they didn't get them from the US. But, then, America is always guilty of any conceivable accusation until proven innocent, isn't it, Kant? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
Pakistan got most of its technology from China and North Korea whilst India has strong military relationships with Israel and good technological skill of its own. I criticized US support for Pakistan in the past, but I think that they have no responsabilities for the nukes and I never see articles or other documentation proving the opposite. P.S. the fact that I agree with you about history and US foreign policy has nothing to do with christmas :) -- Looking for a new screen-saver? Try FOYD: http://digilander.iol.it/FOYD
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If terrorists armed with box cutters could kill 3,000 in a morning, what might they do with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons? That is the question that has consumed the Bush White House for the past 15 months. Facing it has to mean facing Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. Read more here: Bush's motive? Security[^] Kant Sonork-100.28114 Success is only a matter of luck. Ask any failure.
Kant wrote: ...Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. I believe Mr. Hussein poses a threat and that there is enough moral cause to depose him without bringing nuclear and/or bio-chemical weapons into the argument. However, you do need to get your facts straight. The US dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan (causing fewer casualities than the conventional bombings and saving countless Japanese and Allied lives.) The participants in WWI used chemical weapons on each other to a devastating effect. That being said, Hussein has shown a fearsome callousness to human life in his use of bio-chemical weapons on his own people as well as on Iranians as well as the deliberate lighting of the Kuwati oil wells, which caused terrible harm to people and the environment. Add to that his glee in watching people being tortured and executed and you have, well, a psychopath.
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I can only assume you are implying that Pakistan got it's nukes from the US. There was a very large article in Scientific American a few years ago about Pakistan's and India's nuclear program. No, they didn't get them from the US. But, then, America is always guilty of any conceivable accusation until proven innocent, isn't it, Kant? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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> the only man who has actually used weapons of mass > destruction in war How about US using WMD on Japan? History is a prostitute really :) Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)
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Kant wrote: ...Mr. Hussein, the only man who has actually used weapons of mass destruction in war. I believe Mr. Hussein poses a threat and that there is enough moral cause to depose him without bringing nuclear and/or bio-chemical weapons into the argument. However, you do need to get your facts straight. The US dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan (causing fewer casualities than the conventional bombings and saving countless Japanese and Allied lives.) The participants in WWI used chemical weapons on each other to a devastating effect. That being said, Hussein has shown a fearsome callousness to human life in his use of bio-chemical weapons on his own people as well as on Iranians as well as the deliberate lighting of the Kuwati oil wells, which caused terrible harm to people and the environment. Add to that his glee in watching people being tortured and executed and you have, well, a psychopath.
What do you think about Kim Jong-il and its despotic reign in North Korea. Millions are starving there, he's making the same thing to his people than Pol-pot did in Cambodia: it can be considered as a genocide, as the starving in Ukraine in the 1930s. NK is definitely a much bigger threat than Iraq now, it actually may have A-bombs :omg:, and ICBM :wtf:!
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Brit wrote: Pakistan managed to create nukes without anyone noticing Actually not...and no surprise at all.. Both USA and Russia were aware of Pakistan nuclear program during the entire period of 70s-90s. When Pakistan conducted first cold test in 1985, CIA report was immediately published. Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
Yep, I remember having reading this in a scientific magasine '(Science & vIe) around '86 . The front page was a drawing of a nuclear bomb with the pakistanese flag on it, and the title (:~ ): Does Pakistan have the bomb ?
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Funny how the news goes these days. We are looking and looking for evidence that Saddam Hussein is building a nuclear weapon, but can't find it. Meanwhile in the US, even the trees are radioactive near our nuclear weapons labs. Somehow, Saddam Hussein has enriched uranium from its 0.7% natural abundance of 235U to weapons-grade uranium with better than 90% 235U, and disposed of all his waste without creating any noticeable environmental radioactivity. Perhaps the US should employ Saddam Hussein to teach us how to run an environmentally friendly nuclear weapons program. Why couldn't Science, in the long run, serve As well as one's uncleared lunch-table or Mme X en Culottes de Matador? James Merrill
Maybe you should just read your own link again. The radiooactivity had nothing at all to do with uranium enrichment, but instead was the result of previous explosive tests... If you are going to post things like this and jump to rediculous conclusions, at least be accurate. :|
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What do you think about Kim Jong-il and its despotic reign in North Korea. Millions are starving there, he's making the same thing to his people than Pol-pot did in Cambodia: it can be considered as a genocide, as the starving in Ukraine in the 1930s. NK is definitely a much bigger threat than Iraq now, it actually may have A-bombs :omg:, and ICBM :wtf:!
I hurt so bad inside I wish you could see the world through my eyes It stays the same I just wanna laugh again
This is exactly why we need to get rid of Saddam Hussein now! KaЯl wrote: What do you think about Kim Jong-il and its despotic reign in North Korea. I think it's despicable. Unfortunately, the dynamics of the region, specifically China's alliance with, and defense of, North Korea prevents stronger action from being taken. And there is the real possibility that North Korea already has a nuclear bomb--we know they have the missiles. Evidence is that China is getting upset at North Korea and their intransigence as well. The US is largely deferring to the Chinese in an attempt to solve the problem with North Korea. However, I don't believe North Korea to be a more destabilizing influence in the world today than Iraq. Unlike Kim Jong-il, who is mostly just extremely incompetent in addition to be an egotist, Saddam already sees himself as a martyr, which is what makes him so dangerous.