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MFC Doc / View Architecture vs. Alternatives

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  • R Ray Gregory

    Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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    Ajit Jadhav
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    MVC ------- Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. (Francis Bacon) Nature, to be apprehended, must be obeyed. (Ayn Rand)

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    • R Ray Gregory

      Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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      Erik Funkenbusch
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      Stingray has it's "Stingray Foundation Classes" which includes a Model/View/Controller model, I think it's free to download last I looked.

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      • R Ray Gregory

        Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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        James Pullicino
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        Its always best to stick as much as possible to MFC to create doc/view apps, especially if it meets your needs. This is becuase there are many resources available for MFC programs, whereas there are considerably less for third-party frameworks.

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        • R Ray Gregory

          Does the .NET framework have anything comparable to Doc / View?

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          George
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          Sure - it's a new, revolutionary model called Spaghetti / Code. Basically you stick to global variables and copy-paste as much code as you possibly can (so called re-use code). ;)

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          • R Ray Gregory

            Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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            Neville Franks
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            I'm not aware of any alternatives to MFC's Doc/View in the Windows world, other than Stingrays MVC, which I would be very reluctant to use. The MVC model is defintely the way to go but its a pity that MFC left out the Controller. CView derived classes can also be difficult to reuse, for example in docked dialog bars. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows http://www.getsoft.com

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            • N Neville Franks

              I'm not aware of any alternatives to MFC's Doc/View in the Windows world, other than Stingrays MVC, which I would be very reluctant to use. The MVC model is defintely the way to go but its a pity that MFC left out the Controller. CView derived classes can also be difficult to reuse, for example in docked dialog bars. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows http://www.getsoft.com

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              Francisco Viella
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              Sometime ago I heard about IBM having the doc/view/controller model implemented in their Visual Age for OS/2. Since now there is a Visual Age working in Windows, I presume there will be a doc/view/controller too.

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              • E Erik Funkenbusch

                Stingray has it's "Stingray Foundation Classes" which includes a Model/View/Controller model, I think it's free to download last I looked.

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                Christian Skovdal Andersen
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                I do not think Stingray is free at all. Actually it is goddamn expensive. Something like $10K+ when my company bought it some years ago. Not really worth the money, to be honest :-( Christian Skovdal Andersen

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                  I do not think Stingray is free at all. Actually it is goddamn expensive. Something like $10K+ when my company bought it some years ago. Not really worth the money, to be honest :-( Christian Skovdal Andersen

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                  Tomasz Sowinski
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                  > Not really worth the money, to be honest I had good experience with Stingray's Objective Grid. The rest of the Stingray suite... well, it simply stinks. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com.pl

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                  • C Christian Skovdal Andersen

                    I do not think Stingray is free at all. Actually it is goddamn expensive. Something like $10K+ when my company bought it some years ago. Not really worth the money, to be honest :-( Christian Skovdal Andersen

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                    Erik Funkenbusch
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                    I didn't say all of Stingray's code was free, just the Stingray Foundation Classes. This may have changed since RW bought them.. so i'll take a look.

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                    • R Ray Gregory

                      Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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                      CodeGuy
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                      I'm wondering if the original question was referring to architectures akin to Doc/View, or something completely different from Doc/View, like a Blackboard design pattern?

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                      • R Ray Gregory

                        Are any of you aware of viable alternatives to the MFC Doc / View architecture? If so, how would you rate them compared to Doc / View?

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                        Aza
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                        The MVC. For larger projects (> 50000 lines) there is also the StateMaster pattern. Too much overhead on smaller projects though. Johannes

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                        • T Tomasz Sowinski

                          > Not really worth the money, to be honest I had good experience with Stingray's Objective Grid. The rest of the Stingray suite... well, it simply stinks. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com.pl

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                          Stephen Kellett
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                          Wow! Don't hold back on your opinion there Tomasz. :-) Stephen Kellett -- C++/Java/Win NT/Unix variants Memory leaks/corruptions/performance/system problems. UK based. Problems with RSI/WRULD? Contact me for advice.

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                          • T Tomasz Sowinski

                            > Not really worth the money, to be honest I had good experience with Stingray's Objective Grid. The rest of the Stingray suite... well, it simply stinks. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com.pl

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                            And it doesn't help when their support sucks as bad as it does.

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