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    Ben Breeg
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    Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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      Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

      I am the Breeg, goo goo g'joob Aici zace un om despre care nu sestie prea mult

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      Dario Solera
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      I'm running full 64-bits since a few years and never had any problem. That said, keep in mind that Windows Server 2008 R2 is 64-bit only, so you might want to run on Windows 7 x64 just to have an almost-identical environment. I don't know how you use your machine, but I have 8 GB and often run out of memory, because I keep multiple instances of VS open, with virtual machines running in background. I will probably add another 8 GB. Also, I often find that browsers, especially Firefox and Chrome, use up to 1 GB of memory... All that said, given how cheap memory is, I would suggest you to go x64, buy plenty of memory and disable the paging file to get improved performance. I don't see any reason to stick with 32-bit. It's the past.

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        Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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        Lost User
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        I needed to set up large patitions (>2TB) so 64 bit was the way to go.

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          Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

          I am the Breeg, goo goo g'joob Aici zace un om despre care nu sestie prea mult

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          Kim Togo
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          Go for the 64 bit. Code that runs fin under 32 bit, may have some issue in 64 bit. You have nothing to lose and but much to gain :-)

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            Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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            Daniel Scott
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            To turn it around, is there any REAL advantage to using the 32 bit edition?

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            • B Ben Breeg

              Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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              Keith Barrow
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              64 Bit and the extra memory addressing becomes a huge boon if you are running VMs.

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              • B Ben Breeg

                Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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                AspDotNetDev
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                I imagine 64-bit processors are better for memory throughput (e.g., you can play higher quality HD video). And running 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit processor would reduce performance.

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                • B Ben Breeg

                  Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

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                  peterchen
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                  Scales better. Plonk in another few gigs of RAM, and WHOOOSH! The only reasons to avoid x64:

                  • legacy hardware for which you don't get drivers anymore
                  • Some shell extensions don't work anymore. (@Max TrayPlayer is the only one for me). Generally, software that struggles with not running as admin is usually harder to debug (due to registry etc. virtualization).

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                    Apart from the obvious advantage of addressing memory above 4Gbytes, what is the advantage to using a 64bit OS? I'm not running a high end CAD station or anything really taxing or using loads of memory, so I'm wondering if there is any REAL advantage to using Windows 7 x64 edition as opposed to the 32 bit edition.

                    I am the Breeg, goo goo g'joob Aici zace un om despre care nu sestie prea mult

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                    Dave Parker
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                    Some software (eg: Office 2007) has some issues running on a 64-bit OS (the OneNote printer driver doesn't work, and there are other issues I can't remember as well). Some peripherals don't have 64-bit drivers - a cheap webcam I bought on ebay only a year ago doesn't (it only cost about £2 though so not that surprised). I'm running 64-bit mostly so I have expansion room if I ever need more RAM (I'm coping fine with 3 GB at the moment though, the only time I ever hit the limits of that are when I have about 3 virtual machines running). On the server versions of Windows extra RAM is supported even on 32-bit (might work with desktop versions too if you hack around with PAE, not sure). A 64-bit OS is needed to virtualize 64-bit guests if your CPU doesn't support VT. I think Server 2008 R2 (not sure about R1) and some other newer servers (later versions of Exchange etc) are only available in 64-bit. I think 64-bit versions of some software may offer a performance improvement but most people probably wouldn't notice any difference there.

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                      Scales better. Plonk in another few gigs of RAM, and WHOOOSH! The only reasons to avoid x64:

                      • legacy hardware for which you don't get drivers anymore
                      • Some shell extensions don't work anymore. (@Max TrayPlayer is the only one for me). Generally, software that struggles with not running as admin is usually harder to debug (due to registry etc. virtualization).

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                      Rob Grainger
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                      Oh, and IE9 works better on the 32-bit platform, as Microsoft couldn't be bothered to write a 64-bit version of their JavaScript engine. MS have a habit of crapping on people who buy/install the best versions of their O/S. Anyone else remember Vista Ultimate Extras?

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                        Oh, and IE9 works better on the 32-bit platform, as Microsoft couldn't be bothered to write a 64-bit version of their JavaScript engine. MS have a habit of crapping on people who buy/install the best versions of their O/S. Anyone else remember Vista Ultimate Extras?

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                        Karl Sanford
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                        A little clarity, the 32-bit version of IE9 works better than the 64-bit version on a 64-bit platform. When you install IE9 to a x64 platform, it will install both versions, just be sure to run the 32-bit version (which is the default anyway, so you should be fine).

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