The VS designer team should be shipped off to Africa. In a crate. Wearing a gorilla suit.
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Am I the only one who likes the markup code formatted / aligned in a readable manner? I know it's been this way for ages, but apparently the VS team reeeeelly wants you to just wiggle the mouse and not look at all that nasty, evil, complicated aspx / html code behind the designer window (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...). I mean, why else would the guys who wrote this thing completely trash the indentations and newlines of the code? If I make the mistake of saving an aspx page in VS it becomes the wild west, newlines and tabs be damned. Hell, I'd be tempted to write a VS hack to keep them from trashing my code if I thought there was a market for it, but I suspect these days I'm in the minority when it comes to preferring to code by hand instead of using their visual designers. Not only does it waste my time having to go back and make the code readable again, it irritates me on a philosophical level that the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons who shouldn't be exposed to any of that scary programming stuff. Grr. Oh, sorry. Did I forget that damned [Flame On] tag again?
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Am I the only one who likes the markup code formatted / aligned in a readable manner? I know it's been this way for ages, but apparently the VS team reeeeelly wants you to just wiggle the mouse and not look at all that nasty, evil, complicated aspx / html code behind the designer window (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...). I mean, why else would the guys who wrote this thing completely trash the indentations and newlines of the code? If I make the mistake of saving an aspx page in VS it becomes the wild west, newlines and tabs be damned. Hell, I'd be tempted to write a VS hack to keep them from trashing my code if I thought there was a market for it, but I suspect these days I'm in the minority when it comes to preferring to code by hand instead of using their visual designers. Not only does it waste my time having to go back and make the code readable again, it irritates me on a philosophical level that the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons who shouldn't be exposed to any of that scary programming stuff. Grr. Oh, sorry. Did I forget that damned [Flame On] tag again?
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
Christopher Duncan wrote:
the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons
That is how everyone thinks of their customer base. And I think everyone might be right.
It's an OO world.
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Am I the only one who likes the markup code formatted / aligned in a readable manner? I know it's been this way for ages, but apparently the VS team reeeeelly wants you to just wiggle the mouse and not look at all that nasty, evil, complicated aspx / html code behind the designer window (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...). I mean, why else would the guys who wrote this thing completely trash the indentations and newlines of the code? If I make the mistake of saving an aspx page in VS it becomes the wild west, newlines and tabs be damned. Hell, I'd be tempted to write a VS hack to keep them from trashing my code if I thought there was a market for it, but I suspect these days I'm in the minority when it comes to preferring to code by hand instead of using their visual designers. Not only does it waste my time having to go back and make the code readable again, it irritates me on a philosophical level that the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons who shouldn't be exposed to any of that scary programming stuff. Grr. Oh, sorry. Did I forget that damned [Flame On] tag again?
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
My big issue is that when I have xxxyyy it turns it in to xxxyyy Which looks nice, but changes the data, and causes rendering issues in my app. I've been editing XML in notepad, b/c I don't have time to risk it, I'll play with the settings later when I have time to experiment with what works to change it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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My big issue is that when I have xxxyyy it turns it in to xxxyyy Which looks nice, but changes the data, and causes rendering issues in my app. I've been editing XML in notepad, b/c I don't have time to risk it, I'll play with the settings later when I have time to experiment with what works to change it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Uh, Christian? they both look like xxxyyy to me. Did I start in on the tequila too early tonight? :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons
That is how everyone thinks of their customer base. And I think everyone might be right.
It's an OO world.
So tell me again what company you work for? I mean, not that I want to avoid it or anything, just asking... :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Uh, Christian? they both look like xxxyyy to me. Did I start in on the tequila too early tonight? :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
The carriage return and spaces get added to the string that is returned, which offsets the values when they are rendered in my app.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Uh, Christian? they both look like xxxyyy to me. Did I start in on the tequila too early tonight? :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
Well Christopher, I must have had some vodka in my slushy because I saw exactly the same text too!!! :wtf:
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The carriage return and spaces get added to the string that is returned, which offsets the values when they are rendered in my app.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Gosh, it's only whitespace. That means it doesn't exist, right? :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Well Christopher, I must have had some vodka in my slushy because I saw exactly the same text too!!! :wtf:
He forgot to escape some characters. Should have been:
<blah>xxxyyy</blah>
And:
<blah>
xxxyyy
</blah>I think in all that time away he has forgotten how to use PRE blocks too. :rolleyes:
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Am I the only one who likes the markup code formatted / aligned in a readable manner? I know it's been this way for ages, but apparently the VS team reeeeelly wants you to just wiggle the mouse and not look at all that nasty, evil, complicated aspx / html code behind the designer window (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...). I mean, why else would the guys who wrote this thing completely trash the indentations and newlines of the code? If I make the mistake of saving an aspx page in VS it becomes the wild west, newlines and tabs be damned. Hell, I'd be tempted to write a VS hack to keep them from trashing my code if I thought there was a market for it, but I suspect these days I'm in the minority when it comes to preferring to code by hand instead of using their visual designers. Not only does it waste my time having to go back and make the code readable again, it irritates me on a philosophical level that the VS team clearly thinks their customer base are a bunch of morons who shouldn't be exposed to any of that scary programming stuff. Grr. Oh, sorry. Did I forget that damned [Flame On] tag again?
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
ugh. I thought it was bad enough that they invented partial classes to try and hide the fact that the winforms designer randomized the placement of code inside InitializeComponent() every time you touch the form designer.
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ugh. I thought it was bad enough that they invented partial classes to try and hide the fact that the winforms designer randomized the placement of code inside InitializeComponent() every time you touch the form designer.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
So you'd be up for a road trip to Redmond involving the VS team, way too many shots of tequila, and oh, say, a cattle prod? :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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So you'd be up for a road trip to Redmond involving the VS team, way too many shots of tequila, and oh, say, a cattle prod? :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer Watch Bad Programmer! - Premieres May, 2011
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Yeah, but I'd like some help from Rodger in designing a custom one. 10kVA 3 phase isn't something amateurs should be playing with, and anything less would be letting them off too lightly.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
I'll be happy to help, but we'll need to limit the amperage. Mustn't kill them before we get tired of poking them and watching them twitch. Around 50 uA would be about right, at 24.94 kV - hmmm... ah, 470 Mohm should do the trick. I think I've got one out in the shed... Be right back.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I'll be happy to help, but we'll need to limit the amperage. Mustn't kill them before we get tired of poking them and watching them twitch. Around 50 uA would be about right, at 24.94 kV - hmmm... ah, 470 Mohm should do the trick. I think I've got one out in the shed... Be right back.
Will Rogers never met me.
